hein22 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Already reported the ICLS not being properly simulated in terms of earth reference stabilization but now I found out that the IFLOS also suffers the same issue. Attached a track. IFLOS not stabilized.trk Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Any news? Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 Friendly Bump Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 ED: this system cannot be in this state for a super module. Any news? Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyG Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 ED: this system cannot be in this state for a super module. Any news? It's not a super module. It's just a regular module of a SuperCarrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmed Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 It's not a super module. It's just a regular module of a SuperCarrier. Nevertheless, it would be great to get an official acknowledgment of whether this is accepted as a bug and is going to get fixed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 So they fixed the ICLS stabilization issue but the IFLOS bug is still present. Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Hello hello. Any news about the IFLOS? Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Half a year after the report, I wanted to ask if this is still on the plans to fix? In august ED fixed the ICLS part of this bug, but the IFLOS is still affected. THanks. Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderOne Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Half a year after the report, I wanted to ask if this is still on the plans to fix? In august ED fixed the ICLS part of this bug, but the IFLOS is still affected. THanks.Apparently ... no one is working anymore on the Supercarrier completion since months !?! :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziptie Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 @BIGNEWY or @NineLine Any input on this thread for the OP - seems as though he's followed his suspected bug for quite some time and being patient. Figured it was worth a shot tagging you to try for assistance. Cheers, Ziptie i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 25, 2020 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2020 Sorry for completely overlooking this thread, can you explain to me in simple terms what is the problem here, I maybe missing the point. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Sorry for completely overlooking this thread, can you explain to me in simple terms what is the problem here, I maybe missing the point. thanks Hey! Sure no problem. Both ICLS and IFLOS are mounted on torsion bars so the pitch of the boat won't affect the angle at which the beam (ICLS) or light (IFLOS) projects. The ICLS was fixed already in an august OB patch. I know ED wrote "roll" but they fixed the pitch part. ICLS is not stabilized. If ship rolls on waves ICLS bar swings together with deck - fixed But the IFLOS still moves along with the axis of the deck, which is incorrect as the torsion bar makes a unique earth referenced angle. I do not know what is the maximum angle the torsion bar can compensate, as it is not magic and if the carrier pitches like hell there may be some degree of deviations in the actual angle, but the devs surely know. Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrusty Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Hey! Sure no problem. Both ICLS and IFLOS are mounted on torsion bars so the pitch of the boat won't affect the angle at which the beam (ICLS) or light (IFLOS) projects. The ICLS was fixed already in an august OB patch. I know ED wrote "roll" but they fixed the pitch part. But the IFLOS still moves along with the axis of the deck, which is incorrect as the torsion bar makes a unique earth referenced angle. I do not know what is the maximum angle the torsion bar can compensate, as it is not magic and if the carrier pitches like hell there may be some degree of deviations in the actual angle, but the devs surely know. I wanted to see it for myself so I set the WOD 65 knots. The boat was pitching more then I hoped for:huh: and I was so hypnotized with the deck movement that I failed to see any difference between the ICLS glideslope and the ball. From what I can tell the ball had similar deviations to what ICLS was showing. Both were hitting their limits in my opinion. It is a hell of an improvement from few months ago. I flew with half flaps on a 3.5 deg. GS (the only option we have) in conditions well above my skill level... should've been a wave-off! I posted a clip, perhaps you can see more then I could as far as FLOLS v ICLS goes. The first 1 min. shows the approach, second part shows me launching from cat3. The shot looked as if in slow motion. I'll try more realistic conditions later on. In stable approach I should be able to see the ball better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 I wanted to see it for myself so I set the WOD 65 knots. The boat was pitching more then I hoped for:huh: and I was so hypnotized with the deck movement that I failed to see any difference between the ICLS glideslope and the ball. From what I can tell the ball had similar deviations to what ICLS was showing. Both were hitting their limits in my opinion. It is a hell of an improvement from few months ago. I flew with half flaps on a 3.5 deg. GS (the only option we have) in conditions well above my skill level... should've been a wave-off! I posted a clip, perhaps you can see more then I could as far as FLOLS v ICLS goes. The first 1 min. shows the approach, second part shows me launching from cat3. The shot looked as if in slow motion. I'll try more realistic conditions later on. In stable approach I should be able to see the ball better. ICLS was the only change there was. IFLOS behaves the same since supercarrier day 1. You can even use the stennis and see the difference (stennis has the torsion bars modeled). Only way of trying is F2 view steady, let the boat pitch and see the ball move heavily. Funny enough, the stennis has the IFLOS working correctly but the ICLS bugged. Supercarrier has the ICLS working correctly but IFLOS bugged. :joystick: Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrusty Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 ICLS was the only change there was. IFLOS behaves the same since supercarrier day 1. You can even use the stennis and see the difference (stennis has the torsion bars modeled). Only way of trying is F2 view steady, let the boat pitch and see the ball move heavily. Funny enough, the stennis has the IFLOS working correctly but the ICLS bugged. Supercarrier has the ICLS working correctly but IFLOS bugged. :joystick: I bet when the FLOS on SC gets stabilized, the one on Stennis will stop compensating... Anyway, I saw the discrepancy on my follow up flight. 40 knots down the angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 I bet when the FLOS on SC gets stabilized, the one on Stennis will stop compensating... Anyway, I saw the discrepancy on my follow up flight. 40 knots down the angle. Lol, hehe. Yeah, I know that for us to see an actual difference there has to be winds that comes from hell rather than a cardinal point, but it still is worth the report. :) Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 @BIGNEWY the explanation requested is here https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/english/digital-combat-simulator/dcs-supercarrier/bugs-and-problems-bl/276998-investigating-iflos-not-stabilized#post7152557 Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 26, 2020 ED Team Share Posted November 26, 2020 I have seen it thank you, still investigating 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hein22 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 4:23 PM, BIGNEWY said: I have seen it thank you, still investigating Hallo! Did you hear back from the team? Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted December 14, 2020 ED Team Share Posted December 14, 2020 Hey Hein, when we hear back we will update the thread, no need to bump it. Thanks. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 14, 2020 ED Team Share Posted December 14, 2020 I have reported to the team for checking, I can not say if this is a bug or not currently, When I get some feedback I will reopen the thread and reply. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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