Ala13_ManOWar Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Wait, does the P-47's supercharger smoothly regulate manifold pressure with altitude as opposed to the jarring "high gear" transition we get in the 51/spitfire?AFAIK the turbocharger in the P-47 is manually operated, that's why provided you pay attention for all the time it will be smoother than any automatic supercharger, but also a means a way higher workload for the pilot, especially during descent in which you can over boost and blow your engine up quite easily. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too-cool Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Any word on the ME 262, been waiting just as long for it as for the P-47, 4yrs and counting. TC Edited April 5, 2017 by too-cool Win 10 Pro 64bit | Half X F/T Case | Corsair 1200AT ps | Asus ROG Maximums XIII Extreme | I9 11900K Clocked@4200 | Nepton 240 W/C | 64GB DDR4-3600 Gskill Mem | Asus 3080 gpu/8gb | SB-Z audio | Asus 32" 1440 Monitor | Winwing Super Tauras/Super Libra | Crosswind R/P | Track-ir-5 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo_laredo Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) AFAIK the turbocharger in the P-47 is manually operated, that's why provided you pay attention for all the time it will be smoother than any automatic supercharger, but also a means a way higher workload for the pilot, especially during descent in which you can over boost and blow your engine up quite easily. S! Wait, does the P-47's supercharger smoothly regulate manifold pressure with altitude as opposed to the jarring "high gear" transition we get in the 51/spitfire? Yes... you have Two throttles, one is your regular throttle (Right one) and the other is the turbo (left side) So you use your right lever to fly low level lets say 0 Ft up to 15000 (dont recall the exact number) but somwhere around there. As higher you go, air is less dense, less O2 entering the engine so at one point you have your throttle lever all the way up and the engine as you go higher starts losing MP. so its time to reach for the left lever, and start spoling up the turbo wich compresses air and increases your MP, so lets say you enter combat at 25000 ft, you are only going to use your turbo lever as your regular lever its already max up. (and you will use your turbo lever as a regular throttle) (it doesnt have higher or lower setting) A big NO NO its to have the Turbo lever Higher than your "regular" lever Example cruising at 25000 ft witch turbo lets say half way up.. and suddenly pull the regular all the way back, in this case the turbo will blow up! and bye bye turbo so for descent from hight altitudes you reduce gradually your Turbo and when it reaches all the way back you go back to use your regular lever In some models there was a little mechanism that joined both levers as one, so that at higher altitudes you could use the turbo lever wihtout never worring about lowering the wrong lever. least they both where at the same place. The P-51 all of this its automatic with only Two turbo settings, Low and High. In the P47D you get all the range in the lever Edited April 5, 2017 by alfredo_laredo A.K.A. Timon -117th- in game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 P-51 doesn't have turbo, only supercharger. The supercharger has two gears. P-47 has supercharger and a turbocharger. The supercharger is single speed, there's no control for it. The turbocharger has manual wastegate control lever that you've just described. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Sized Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 So does that mean we can shove irresponsible amounts of air into the engine at low altitude? :D DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangi Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 So does that mean we can shove irresponsible amounts of air into the engine at low altitude? :D Not for long. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyforDCS Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Sounds like the P47D will be quite a handful. Poor climber, but good roll rate, great top speed straight and level, and an absolute beast in the dive. Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSR_T-800 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Sounds like the P47D will be quite a handful. Poor climber, but good roll rate, great top speed straight and level, and an absolute beast in the dive. In the current scenario of low altitude dogfighting it'll be the most difficult plane to fly. The P-47 will be around 50kph slower than the K4 and D9 at SL, it may as well be at a stand still. You'll have nothing to fall back to if someone is on your 6. Just hope you've got enough altitude to dive back to base. However it will make an excellent escort fighter possibly even better than the Mustang. Does anyone know the level force DCS pilots use to roll? http://i.imgur.com/LYvIQFB.gifv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyforDCS Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 In the current scenario of low altitude dogfighting it'll be the most difficult plane to fly. The P-47 will be around 50kph slower than the K4 and D9 at SL, it may as well be at a stand still. You'll have nothing to fall back to if someone is on your 6. Just hope you've got enough altitude to dive back to base. However it will make an excellent escort fighter possibly even better than the Mustang. By the time the P47 hits, I think the WWII aspect of DCS will be in full swing. Hopefully we will see some good "escort" missions on popular Normandy servers by that time. Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Any word on the ME 262, been waiting just as long for it as for the P-47, 4yrs and counting. TC Yeah maybe in the me 262 thread :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Sized Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 So does that mean we can shove irresponsible amounts of air into the engine at low altitude Not for long. Now that's my kind of airplane DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrett_g Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 By the time the P47 hits, I think the WWII aspect of DCS will be in full swing. Hopefully we will see some good "escort" missions on popular Normandy servers by that time. Yeah I think that's the "real" reason why the P-47 module has been delayed so long. If it was released into an air-to-air only scenario the majority of the people would use the P-47 incorrectly and complain. It would get bad reviews and sales would be hurt. It's better that the P-47 be billed as an A2G asset that a few guys can master in A2A situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 6, 2017 ED Team Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yeah I think that's the "real" reason why the P-47 module has been delayed so long. If it was released into an air-to-air only scenario the majority of the people would use the P-47 incorrectly and complain. It would get bad reviews and sales would be hurt. It's better that the P-47 be billed as an A2G asset that a few guys can master in A2A situations. This isnt true, its purely been about the availability of info for building the module. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yeah I think that's the "real" reason why the P-47 module has been delayed so long. If it was released into an air-to-air only scenario the majority of the people would use the P-47 incorrectly and complain. It would get bad reviews and sales would be hurt. It's better that the P-47 be billed as an A2G asset that a few guys can master in A2A situations. Exactly why I want it. It will be way more fun than the A-10c. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo38 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Now that's my kind of airplane Heh-heh! I was thinking something similar when I read that exchange, only my thoughts contained more sex-charged language. : ) I don't normally go for bigger gals, but just can't help myself when it comes to the Thunderbolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomEngine Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTbMKVuijE8 watched this last night, made me want one even more.... Edited April 7, 2017 by DoomEngine [sIGPIC]http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/375/pics/3_31.jpg[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrett_g Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTbMKVuijE8 watched this last night, made me want one even more.... My favorite P-47 documentary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calinho Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) From 1944 to 1955 Brazilian air force operated 85 P-47's Complete documentary about Brazilian air force participation in WWII with P-47 footage, many good stories. In inglish! Edited April 16, 2017 by Calinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Exactly why I want it. It will be way more fun than the A-10c. and a A1 Skyraider would be more fun than a P47 ;) Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Duster Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 and a A1 Skyraider would be more fun than a P47 ;) ahh, i can picture it now.........loaded up with napalm and rockets, hearing choppers and jets whiz around you as you take off from that carrier and head to the coastline.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 ahh, i can picture it now.........loaded up with napalm and rockets, hearing choppers and jets whiz around you as you take off from that carrier and head to the coastline.............. also flown by the USAF "Sandy" SAR missions. Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrett_g Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Speaking of napalm (and getting back on the P-47 topic)... Here's a P-47 being loaded up with napalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 20, 2017 ED Team Share Posted April 20, 2017 Guys, keep the topic on the P-47, any bombs that were loaded on the P-47 in 1944 are fair game as far as I am concerned, every single weapon every created has killed in some horrible way, the discussion of that is not for this forum. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Sized Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Can anybody confirm or deny if our Jug is going to have the dive flaps? I was talking to a WWII enthusiast and he swore on his life we wouldn't be getting them. My understanding is anything above block 28 had them. DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitormouraa Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Can anybody confirm or deny if our Jug is going to have the dive flaps? I was talking to a WWII enthusiast and he swore on his life we wouldn't be getting them. My understanding is anything above block 28 had them. Isn't the compressibility of the P-47 quite good? SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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