ozTRipwiRE Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Hi, I have been trying to finish the Instant Action Mission for Flaming Cliffs 3 in the Mig29S, ‘Combat Air Patrol’ and have a question regarding mission structure. I flew in the direction that I was in at mission start and flew towards the top of the map. I soon engaged some enemies with my flight and shot some down. I noticed the red bullseye (near Krasnodar-Center) further towards the top of the map and flew towards it expecting to find the remaining enemy aircraft. I landed at the friendly airport of Gudauta to refuel and rearm which I did there. I took off and flew towards the red bullseye again. I got there and flew around the area covering as much ground as I could before running out of fuel and having to finish the mission unsuccessfully. I thought that flying towards the red bullseye would lead me to the remaining enemies but it did not. If anyone could please explain the structure of this mission to me so I can better understand how to find the remaining enemies when 4/8 are already shot down I really would appreciate it. ozTRipwiRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 The Bullseye is a reference point. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozTRipwiRE Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Bullseye as a 'reference point'? Hi joey45, Thanks very much for your help. You said that the red bullseye is a 'reference point'. I am afraid that I am a relative beginner with playing flight sims and don’t know exactly what you mean by a ‘reference point’ and how that translates into playing the FC3 sim. Could you please tell me what you mean by a ‘reference point’? If you don’t mind could you also please tell me if that has anything to do with locating enemy aircraft in the mission that I have asked about (and others too of course)? Thanks very much, ozTRipwiRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithcorp Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Since joey45 is offline I hope he won't mind me answering you. Here's a link to a good explanation of what a 'bullseye' is. In short, it's an arbitrary place from which things (like enemy reports) get measured, so that the enemy can't work out where your are by listening into radio transmissions. So instead of saying you, or an enemy you've spotted are 3 miles north of a certain town, all the friendlies are given a secret bullseye location and reference things from that. The bullseye on the map won't necessarily have anything to do with your mission objectives, and probably won't guide you to bad guys. http://falcon4.wikidot.com/concepts:bullseye Hope this helps smith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Maverick Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 A tutorial from FC2 should help you young man! ;) Remember.... when life gives you questions.... Google has answers :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 104th Phoenix Wing Commander / Total Poser / Elitist / Hero / Chad www.104thPhoenix.com www.facebook.com/104thPhoenix My YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adder76 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I also had problems finding the remaining aircrafts, so I took a look at mission triggers. After editing them, I managed to get them in mission. I thought it was something related to my install, because I never saw anyone having the same problem until today. Is there maybe an easier solution for this issue? Thank you very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozTRipwiRE Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Finding enemy aircraft in FC3 missions Hi, Thanks guys for your input, it was very helpful. Adder76 said something about mission triggers. What are they and what do they do, and how do I enable them? Could they help me find enemy aircraft in FC3 Instant Action and Campaign missions? Thanks very much, ozTRipwiRE :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adder76 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 When creating or opening a mission with the mission editor, you can see a lot of icons in the bar located at the left side of screen. One of this, which looks like the symbol used to represent a switch in electronics schematics, is the one which sets the mission triggers. A trigger is somekind of event activator. For example, shooting down one plane group activates another one, already present in mission. What I did was compare Mig-29 instant action mission with Su-27 instant action one, and edited its triggers to make Hornet group appear after shooting down L-39 group and also make Mirage 2000 group appear after shooting down Hornet group. I think is somekind of bug related with this mission, don't know for sure, but they are saying they will correct some FC3 missions in 1.2.6. Maybe they will also fix that, but it looks like no one else is having this problem. I tried to do my best to explain what triggers are and how they work, but perhaps I missed a lot of useful information. Maybe you should take a look at DCS User Manual, page 59. There you can find a lot of information about mission editor. Triggers are better explained in page 80. And sorry for answering so late. I've been away from home during the last few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozTRipwiRE Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hi Adder76, Thanks very much for that info, I will check it out. ozTRipwiRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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