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Hey there,

 

I bought BS, BS2 and A10C, FC1+2 long time ago. Didn't play much except BS1 (played with modified MS SW2 Stick) because I bought the Logitech G940 and ran into so many troubles which didn't solve after several FW updates and new gaming software versions.

 

Now I stumbled across DCS World in Steam and Id like to active my ED-related keys in Steam and give it another try. I know this is still a topic being worked on by ED. Maybe I ll install the regular versions and give the G940 another try (although I doubt he ll make it).

 

I.

I was looking for a AI vehicle/plane list for DCS World but couldn't find any. Especially because I'd like to know which planes I could fly against with a P51. Looks like at least one AI plane from that time made it into DCS (the FW190). Could someone point me to a master vehicle list for the recent DCS World Version?

 

II.

If I ll buy FC3, I can play the (more basic) planes of FC3 in DCS World, right? FC1+2 wont help me?

Do I also need my old LOMAC key? That could be troublesome as I have problems retrieving some of the old ED-related keys.

 

III.

If I see it right, there's no playable modern "A2A-plane"/Interceptor in DCS, right?

 

IV.

Last question: AFAIK one of the IL2 devs is creating a WW II sim based on DCS. Will this sim be a module(s) for DCS World or a standalone product?

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I was looking for a AI vehicle/plane list for DCS World but couldn't find any. Especially because I'd like to know which planes I could fly against with a P51. Looks like at least one AI plane from that time made it into DCS (the FW190). Could someone point me to a master vehicle list for the recent DCS World Version?

The Fw-190 and P-51 are currently the only WWII aircraft, but ED has expressed a desire to add more.

 

II.

If I ll buy FC3, I can play the (more basic) planes of FC3 in DCS World, right? FC1+2 wont help me?

Do I also need my old LOMAC key? That could be troublesome as I have problems retrieving some of the old ED-related keys.

FC3 works in DCSW. You need either LOMAC installed, FC1 installed, or FC2 installed to install FC3.

 

Or you can buy standalone FC3 modules without using any previous software (currently A-10A and Su-25 only).

 

III.

If I see it right, there's no playable modern "A2A-plane"/Interceptor in DCS, right?

The only playable fighters at this point are the FC3 planes. The F-15 and Su-27 are being updated to AFM and then possibly further down to full DCS. ED's next module is the F/A-18C, which will be full DCS. There is also a third party MiG-21 that is nearing completion.

 

IV.

Last question: AFAIK one of the IL2 devs is creating a WW II sim based on DCS. Will this sim be a module(s) for DCS World or a standalone product?

They plan an announcement in September. I'm pretty sure it will integrate into DCSW.

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I was looking for a AI vehicle/plane list for DCS World but couldn't find any. Especially because I'd like to know which planes I could fly against with a P51. Looks like at least one AI plane from that time made it into DCS (the FW190). Could someone point me to a master vehicle list for the recent DCS World Version?

Complete list:

IA Aircrafts

A-10A

A-10C

B-1B

B-52H

C-130

C-17A

E-2D

E-3A

F-117A

F-14A

F-15A

F-15E

F-16A

F-16A MLU

F-16C Blk52d

F-4E

F-5E

F/A-18C

FW-190D-9

KC-135

Mig-29G

Mirage 2000-5

MQ-1A Predator

P-51D

S-3B

S-3B Tanker

Tornado IDS

Tornado GR.4

A-50

An-26B

An-30M

IL-76MD

IL-78M

L-39ZA

Mig-23MLD

Mig-25PD

Mig-25RBT

Mig-27K

Mig-29A

Mig-29S

Mig-31

Su-17M4

Su-24M

Su-24MR

Su-25A

Su-25T

Su-25TM

Su-27

Su-30

Su-33

Su-34

Tu-142

Tu-160

Tu-22M3

Tu-95MS

Yak-40

 

IA Helicopters

UH-1W

AH-64A

AH-64D

CH-47D

CH-53E

OH-58D

SH-60B

UH-1H

UH-60A

Ka-27

Ka-50

Mi-24V

Mi-26

Mi-28N

MI-8MTv2

 

IA Ships

Armed Speedboat

CG-60 Normandy

CVN-70 Carl Vinson

FFG-7 O.H. Perry

Bulk Cargo ship Yakusev

CG 1174 Mskva

CGN 1144.2 Pyotr Velikly

CV 1143.5 Admiral Kutnesov

Civil boat Zvezdny

Dry cargo ship Ivanov

FF 1135M Rezky

FFG 11540 Neustrashimy

FFL 1124.4 Grisha

FSG 1141.1MP Molniya

SSK 641B

SSK 877

Tanker Elinya 160

 

IA Vehicles

Air Defense

AAA Vulcan M163

SAM Avenger M1097

SAM Chaparral M48

SAM Hawk LN M192

SAM Hawk SR AN/SPQ-50

SAM Hawk TR AN/MPQ-46

SAM Linebacker M6

SAM Patriot AMG AN/MRC-137

SAM Patriot ECS AN/MPQ-104

SAM Patriot EPP III

SAM Patriot LN M-901

SAM Patriot STR AN/MPQ-53

SAM Roland ADS

SAM Roland EWR

SAM Stinger MANSPAD

SAM Stinger Coms

SPAAA Gepard

AAA ZU-23 Closed

AAA ZU-23 Emplacement

AAA ZU-23 on Ural-375

CP 9S80M1 Sborka

EWR 1L13

EWR 55G6

SAM SA-10 S-300PS CP 54K6

SAM SA-10 S-300PS LN 5P85C

SAM SA-10 S-300PS LN 5P85D

SAM SA-10 S-300PS SR 5N66M

SAM SA-10 S-300PS SR 64H6E

SAM SA-10 S-300PS TR 30N6

SAM SA-11 Buk CC 9S470M1

SAM SA-11 Buk LN 9A310M1

SAM SA-11 Buk SR 9R18M1

SAM SA-13 Strela-10M3 9A35M3

SAM SA-15 Tor 9A331

SAM SA-18 Igla-S MANPADS

SAM SA-18 Igla-S Comms

SAM SA-19 Tunguska 2S6

SAM SA-3 S-125 LN 5P73

SAM SA-3 S-125 SR P-19

SAM SA-3 S-125 TR SNR

SAM SA-6 Kub LN 2P25

SAM SA-6 Kub STR 9S91

SAM SA-8 Osa 9A33

SAM SA-9 Strela-1 9P31

SPAAA ZSU-23-4 Shilka

 

Armour

APC LVTP-7

APC M1043 HMMWV Armament

APC M1126 Stryker ICV

APC M113

APC TPZ

ATGM M1045 HMMWV TOW

ATGM M1134 Stryker

IFV LAV-25

IFV M2A2 Bradley

IFV Marder

IFV MCV-80

MBT M1A2 Abrams

MBT Leopard 1A3

MBT Leclerc

MBT Leopard-2

MBT M-60A3 Patton

MBT Challenger 2

SPG M1128 Stryker

APC BTR-80

APC MTLB

ARV BRMD-2

ARV BTR-RD

ARV MTLB-U BOMAN

IFV BMD-1

IFV BMP-1

IFV BMP-2

IFV BMP-3

MBT T-55

MBT T-72B

MBT T-80U

MBT T-90

 

Artillery

MLRS M270

SPH M109 Paladin

2B11 Mortar

MLRS 9A52 Smerch

MLRS B-21 Grad

SPH 2S1 Gvozdika

SPH 2S19 Msta

SPH 2S3 Akatsia

SPH 2S9 Nona

 

Fortifications

Armed House

Barracks Armed

Bunker 1

Bunker 2

Outpost

Road Outpost

Watch Tower Armed

 

Infantry

Infantry M249

Infantry M4

Infantry Soldier Rus

Paratrooper AKS

Paratrooper RPG-16

Infantry AK

Infantry RPG

 

Unarmed

APC M1025 HMMWV

CP Predator GCS

CP Predator TrojanSpirit

HEMTT TFFT

Tanker M978 HEMTT

Transpor M818

CP SKP-11 ATC Mobile Command Post

CP Ural-375 PBU

Fuel Truck ATMZ-5

Fuel Truck ATZ-10

GPU APA-50 on Ural-375

GPU APA-80 on ZIL-131

Transport GAZ-3307

Transport GAZ-3308

Transport GAZ-66

Transport IKARUS-280

Transport KAZAM-43101

Transport LAZ-695

Transport MAZ-6303

Transport UAZ-469

Transport UAZ-375

Transport UAZ-4320-31 Armored

Transport UAZ-4321

Transport VAZ-2109

Transport ZIL-131 KUNG

Transport ZIL-4331

Transport ZIL-9

Transport Fire Engine Ural ATsP-6

 

II.

If I ll buy FC3, I can play the (more basic) planes of FC3 in DCS World, right? FC1+2 wont help me?

Do I also need my old LOMAC key? That could be troublesome as I have problems retrieving some of the old ED-related keys.

 

FC-3 get all FC-1/2 aircraft plus F-15C. You need install LOMAC / FC-1 or 2 to install FC-3 (by Ubi request), except you purchase separate FC-3 modules, but LOMAC / FC-1/-2 dont work over DCS: World.

 

III.

If I see it right, there's no playable modern "A2A-plane"/Interceptor in DCS, right?

 

You have F-15C / Su-27 / Su-33 / Mig-25A/G/S to A2A.

 

IV.

Last question: AFAIK one of the IL2 devs is creating a WW II sim based on DCS. Will this sim be a module(s) for DCS World or a standalone product?

 

You need to September 1st to official news.

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Thanks Exorcet and Silver Dragon for the very detailed information!

 

So I even need the old LockOn. :/

I only have FC2 Key. For FC1 I only have the order number in an old email. Both have been bought from the "the fighter collection" page and I cant look up the old CD key for FC1. When it comes to LockOn, I dont even remeber anymore where I have bought it digitally :(

But I still have some time as FC3 is too expensive to me right now. Id only buy it full price with a new computer, new stick and some buddys to play with.

So Im going to try out the things for free and the things I own.

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Thanks Exorcet and Silver Dragon for the very detailed information!

 

So I even need the old LockOn. :/

I only have FC2 Key. For FC1 I only have the order number in an old email. Both have been bought from the "the fighter collection" page and I cant look up the old CD key for FC1. When it comes to LockOn, I dont even remeber anymore where I have bought it digitally :(

But I still have some time as FC3 is too expensive to me right now. Id only buy it full price with a new computer, new stick and some buddys to play with.

So Im going to try out the things for free and the things I own.

 

Don't forget that the non-clickable 3D cockpit/advanced flight model F-15 and Flanker are in the pipeline, so you could snag one of those for the $15 price point when they're released, rather than spending for LOMAC and FC3.

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Thanks Fishbreath!

 

Im still a bit confused though

 

The shop says concerning FC3:

 

Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3 will require an installation of Lock On: Modern Air Combat or previous version Flaming Cliffs.

 

"OR" does mean to me my FC2 should be enough for FC3 to install. But will I be able to install FC2 without Lockon? Or is FC3 just asking for my FC2 key?

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FC3 looks for previous installs and not keys. So to use FC2 to validate FC3, FC2 must be installed. FC2 requires LOMAC or FC1, etc. So in your case, if you don't have anything installed, you'll need LOMAC.

 

However ED was finally able to get around this by selling the FC3 aircraft standalone. You can buy these without previous software. A-10A and Su-25 are for sale now. F-15 and Su-27 are coming later, possibly this year if I remember right.

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...FC2 requires LOMAC or FC1...

 

"or FC1"? but FC1 requires also Lomac, right :smilewink:

 

(however, the orders history of the lockon-shop only presents my FC2 key and FC1 is just mentioned as "older order" :mad::mad::mad:)

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"or FC1"? but FC1 requires also Lomac, right :smilewink:

 

Right—you have to have some product installed that either is or can be traced back to LOMAC.

 

I'm not bothering, personally—if I want a fast-mover before DCS F/A-18C, I'll just wait for the Eagle/Flanker standalone. :P

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Sounds like a plan fishbreath! However, the Eagle and Flanker standalones with be sold seperately I guess and they will 100% equal to the FC3 models (guessing too).

That brings me close to the price of FC3.

 

Side question: The Su25 FC Version is sold as DLC on Steam but the A-10A isn't. Is there any reason for it?

(just asking, Im not interessted for now as the T model is in DCSW and I already bought the A-10C... especially as long as I cant use my keys in Steam)

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Sounds like a plan fishbreath! However, the Eagle and Flanker standalones with be sold seperately I guess and they will 100% equal to the FC3 models (guessing too).

That brings me close to the price of FC3.

 

Side question: The Su25 FC Version is sold as DLC on Steam but the A-10A isn't. Is there any reason for it?

(just asking, Im not interessted for now as the T model is in DCSW and I already bought the A-10C... especially as long as I cant use my keys in Steam)

 

A-10A: DCS Flaming Cliffs is coming to Steam on 16 August 2013.:thumbup:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=111281

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A-10A: DCS Flaming Cliffs is coming to Steam on 16 August 2013.:thumbup:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=111281

 

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