Faelwolf Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 My Leap arrived yesterday, and I got to install it today. I found the software to be primitive, and it totally lacked precision. The mouse emulator is bad, and it barely worked on my desktop. I brought up DCS, and it's a no-go, the cursor was extremely erratic, and it was impossible to click on any switch. There is no support in the mouse emulator to assign motions so no differentiation between switch throws or dial turns even if it could find it's way across the screen. A conversation with tech support revealed they are currently relying on camera drivers from Microsoft from 2006 with some modifications. This thing seems to still be well within beta stage. I personally recommend holding off on it until they can get their act together with the drivers / software, and ED makes it directly compatable. At this stage it is more a toy than a serious tool. Not worth the $$ IMO. For those of you with limited USB space, it also requires a direct connect, no going through a hub, so some rerouting may be necessary if you do decide to try it out for yourself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 25, 2013 ED Team Share Posted July 25, 2013 My Leap arrived yesterday, and I got to install it today. I found the software to be primitive, and it totally lacked precision. The mouse emulator is bad, and it barely worked on my desktop. I brought up DCS, and it's a no-go, the cursor was extremely erratic, and it was impossible to click on any switch. There is no support in the mouse emulator to assign motions so no differentiation between switch throws or dial turns even if it could find it's way across the screen. A conversation with tech support revealed they are currently relying on camera drivers from Microsoft from 2006 with some modifications. This thing seems to still be well within beta stage. I personally recommend holding off on it until they can get their act together with the drivers / software, and ED makes it directly compatable. At this stage it is more a toy than a serious tool. Not worth the $$ IMO. For those of you with limited USB space, it also requires a direct connect, no going through a hub, so some rerouting may be necessary if you do decide to try it out for yourself.. thanks for the info, mine has not arrived yet, and I am already disappointed :( Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Mine have stalled before take-off, there seems to be some address mix-up. After all the negative criticism I'm selecting to wait a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 25, 2013 ED Team Share Posted July 25, 2013 After reading this and seeing feedback on the leap motion forums I have chosen to cancel my order, and wait. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whartsell Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 its definitely "Bleeding Edge" at this point. So was TrackIr back in the day Arduino,EOS and Helios Tutorial Static ATC menu mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Mmmm very sorry to hear that. To be honest mine is still in its box. However I do still think it has potential. It has only just been released so is very very early days. I'm sure in a few months we will start to see decent drivers and program's turning up for it. I must say I'm very disappointed but not surprised that almost all the apps need to be paid for. I think for now it will stay in its box, but I'm sure it will get used once the development ramps up. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highwayman-Ed Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Thanks for the heads up, order cancelled for now! Intel i9-9900KF @5.2GHz MSI Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon 32GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR3200 RAM MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio 40" Panasonic TH-40DX600U @ 4K Pimax Vision 8K Plus / Oculus Rift CV1 / HTC Vive Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker Windows 10 64 Bit Home Edition [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Shame... but as whartsell says.. hopefully software will improve. HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. OpenXR, Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC. Vaicom user. Virpil Mongoose base CM3 & Mongoose stick CM2 (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS with apache Grip. MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voucher76 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hopefully this will improve the leap motion. https://forums.leapmotion.com/showthread.php?2676-Customizing-leapmotion-gestures-for-gaming It should appear in a couple of weeks according to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACADEMIC Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Guys, it's not called Leap for nothing. Have a bit of Faith ;) For me, the vision is still intact, even if it may take a while to get there. Never assumed it would replace the mouse or keyboard as a OS control unit. Looking forward to explore apps that are made for this, then the potential should become clearer. Standing firm with my order. MAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay43 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Just got mine i'll give it a whirl when I am more awake. Sounds like on the forum its heading in the right direction just not quite there yet. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 26, 2013 ED Team Share Posted July 26, 2013 good to hear there is hope, I am going to wait until I can see a working mouse emulation in dcs, otherwise it would just be another gadget lying around for me. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay43 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Well not that good really you need to be in the dark and its current touch system is somewhat unstable a jittery you are supposed to be able to click on stuff but I can't seem to double click on a file to open it just one to highlight it strange I think give it some time and maybe it will get better. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 ....looks at my shiney Kinect 2.0 unit :P Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 ....looks at my shiney Kinect 2.0 unit :P How well does it work with DCS? ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay43 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 ....looks at my shiney Kinect 2.0 unit :P Ha Ha funny man lets face it Skate when it does start working and it will you'll join the affray and that shinny Kinect will become a expensive dust collector besides Kinect takes up to much space this is just under 80mm x 25mm and I just typed this using it lol. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G00dnight Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I have worked out enabling multiscreen and have clicked in helios and in cockpit its not as easy as I would have hoped but its there. using touchless for win8 is easy but I think the movement is too fast it needs to slow down to be more usable. overall so far I'm happy. just waiting for the clever guys and girls to work their magic and get some class apps out there. AMD A8-5600K @ 4GHz, Radeon 7970 6Gig, 16 Gig Ram, Win 10 , 250 gig SSD, 40" Screen + 22 inch below, Track Ir, TMWH, Saitek combat pedals & a loose nut behind the stick :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Ha Ha funny man lets face it Skate when it does start working and it will you'll join the affray and that shinny Kinect will become a expensive dust collector besides Kinect takes up to much space this is just under 80mm x 25mm and I just typed this using it lol. Kinect 2.0 for the PC looks nothing like the original Kinect. the Kinect 2.0 Unit rests nicely on top of my 24' Acer LED Screen.... Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Kinect 2.0 for the PC looks nothing like the original Kinect. the Kinect 2.0 Unit rests nicely on top of my 24' Acer LED Screen.... I must check that out. Are you able to flip switches in the A-10C with your hands? Can you make a video with cam and post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay43 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Kinect 2.0 for the PC looks nothing like the original Kinect. the Kinect 2.0 Unit rests nicely on top of my 24' Acer LED Screen.... Cool I didn't even know that I take back what I said then does it work can you use it in DCS. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay43 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Just been using it in the Huey and it works fine for some things using windows touch app the overhead light dials turn easily certain switches can be turned on or off however to scroll is slightly difficult on the ADF to tune frequency, I think with a better app this will be an awesome addition to DCS. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abburo Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) I just tested one such device and in my opinion there is an definetly "no go". I had used also Gamewave app (best app for our purpose in the Airspace store) and even if I tuned a lot the movement precision I found using it very, very cumbersome. There is no value added for this device for DCS and to be honest this is nothing more then an useless gadget at this moment. Having in mind its physycal limitations I dare to say this will never be able to enter in DCS world in this form. This might need to be combined with some gyrosocopic devices and some direct inputs (buttons or so). Even in the dedicated applications on its own store (Airspace store) I found it to be very tedious. Few days ago I have tested also an Logitech T650 touchpad which by far can be more usefull, as well as a left handed mouse, of course :D. Edited October 16, 2013 by Abburo Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkheirAX Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Can this be used as a hand gesture for viewing the cockpit/zoom in and out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay43 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Can this be used as a hand gesture for viewing the cockpit/zoom in and out? Never thought of that and its probably the only use for it in DCS i will try it out on mine which has just been collecting dust since purchase as none of the apps work for DCS for moving the yellow cross. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abburo Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Cockpit zoom can be achieved either by a headtracker, moving your head fwd or bckwd, or by a dedicated analog axis on your controller. I am using both options as DCS allows you to do that. I would recomand you stay away from LEAP. It is simply useless. Is against human nature and human sensors expectations. The precission is just missing. Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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