Nybble Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Hi there, Just quickly voicing my opinions on how I feel that the current information flow is very unorganized and is a real pain to sort though. I'll start on a positive note and mention that all official news from Matt is very well presented and easy to access, and is even better with the weekly updates. However when I attempt to check on 3rd party modules I find it near impossible to find any actual content updates, as the Dev diary's and updates threads are open to public posting, and rapidly get filled with hundreds of posts which often go off topic. For example, I was quite interested when I saw the DCS:Hawk 'Developer Diary' thread, found here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89722 On opening the thread I find that there are 62 pages of posts to sift though, and I cannot find any content on the module in there. So I was just wondering if anyone else had become frustrated with this approach, or am I missing something completely here? (I hope I don't sound to negative, just wanting to get my thoughts out there :) 3 DCS Multiplayer Highlights Reel - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge55 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Nope. Seems a legitimate observation to me. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napa Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Agree. Mods and 3rd party devs need to tidy up a bit their forums. ED on their side keeps everything neat and clean. Intel i7 12700k / Corsair H150i Elite Capellix / Asus TUF Z690 Wifi D4 / Corsair Dominator 32GB 3200Mhz / Corsair HW1000W / 1x Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 500Gb + 1 Corsair MP600 1TB / ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 OC V2 / Fractal Design Meshify 2 / HOTAS Warthog / TFRP Rudder / TrackIR 5 / Dell U2515h 25" Monitor 1440p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wichid Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 The red headed step children might not have the same moderator access for their forums. Lyndiman AMD Ryzen 3600 / RTX 2070 Super / 32G Ram / Win10 / TrackIR 5 Pro / Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milano Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Couldn't agree more. Seems to me that a forum is a very bad way of posting continuous updates on a project (specially in an open discussion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I haven't followed the other 3rd party subforums, but the Belsimtek subforum is nicely organized. Maybe that's because BST's EvilBivol-1 has been a long time moderator, but it's not rocket science. No clue why it doesn't work as well in other parts of the forum though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoMasterMind Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 A sticky "Official Updates" thread in every third-party forum would be nice now that you are mentioning it :) 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanmancz Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) A sticky "Official Updates" thread in every third-party forum would be nice now that you are mentioning it :) +1 :thumbup: Edited June 28, 2013 by lanmancz [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Elite, Intel i9 9900K, Fractal Design Kelvin S36, Zotac GTX 1070 8GB AMP Extreme, 32GB DDR4 HyperX CL15 Predator Series @ 3000 MHz, Kingston SSD 240GB (OS), Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2 NVMe (sim), Fractal Design Define R5 Black Window, EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2, Win 10 Home x64, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Pack, TrackIR (DelanClip), 3x 27" BenQ EW2740L, Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzicato Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 A +1 from me, too. Definitely a good idea. i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapounas Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I hate reading 100+ post replies that say: "Good luck" "Very nice" "Congratulations" ETC If you have something that help other people write it, or an opinion. This is what the forum was created. Not to say good morning and good evening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 There is nothing wrong about discussion. But They should simply start to maintain their threads and update their first post with the most recent info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin_Hood Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 That or have separate topics for the updates (closed topic) and the discussions (open topic). 2nd French Fighter Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galevsky06 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I like the weekly status done by ED and studioBECZL. Others don't do that ? What can we do ? :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 We can encourage them, but we can't force them. Their method of information distribution is, ultimately, their choice. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danvac Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I like the weekly status done by ED and studioBECZL. Others don't do that ? What can we do ? :noexpression: studioBECZL also left readable news and updates and got to mess full with good work and nice update after weekly updates http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=108487 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucano_uy Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) The whole forum is a mess, obsolete stickies from 3 years ago, irrelevant stuff mixed with golden info. And I am talking about the official side. If we are going to have weekly updates, then open a thread called ED's Weekly updates, and make it closed to comments. Don't make 38 thousand individual threads, all of them stickies, as in 4 months most of them will be obsolete, and just cluttering the already cluttered forum. This is supposed to be positive criticism. Edited June 28, 2013 by Tucano_uy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galevsky06 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 studioBECZL also left readable news and updates and got to mess full with good work and nice update after weekly updates http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=108487 But we don't mind: just read first post as I do. I see no extra mess but clean&official weekly status. Which is very good for such a project :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danvac Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 But we don't mind: just read first post as I do. I see no extra mess but clean&official weekly status. Which is very good for such a project :thumbup: If you read only first post that means you missed DCS MiG-21Bis NewsFlash - Issue No.2 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1798849&postcount=134 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galevsky06 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) If you read only first post that means you missed DCS MiG-21Bis NewsFlash - Issue No.2 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1798849&postcount=134 :huh: so true man, I read it because someone pointed me to this particuliar post like you did, but please, post below messages to tell him to create a new post for each week, or one read-only post ! Edited June 29, 2013 by galevsky06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 A sticky "Official Updates" thread in every third-party forum would be nice now that you are mentioning it :) +1 :thumbup: If you read only first post that means you missed DCS MiG-21Bis NewsFlash - Issue No.2 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1798849&postcount=134 Agreed! Even the Mig-21 forum could stand a little tidiness and maybe follow the same format as the main forum page. Would it be too much to set up an "Official Update" section for each 3rd party forum? Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudester22 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) To be honest all I'm interested in is the work that is being carried out. I have to say it's a bit of a nightmare going through all the one word comments like "Great and Thankyou". I know people like to show their appreciation, but someone should just make a sticky appreciation thread or a news thread in each one of them. Edited July 1, 2013 by Dudester22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.ZG15_FALKE Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 A sticky "Official Updates" thread in every third-party forum would be nice now that you are mentioning it :) +1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nybble Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 Well everyone seems keen on the idea of an Official Updates sub-forum in each third party forum. Next question is, who do we need to contact / harass to get the ball rolling? DCS Multiplayer Highlights Reel - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Respective 3rd party devs need to approach the forum administration to request moderator rights for their subfora. Of course they can always contact us (mods) for help, but i expect that it would get bothersome for them pretty quick. What you can do is talk to the 3rd party devs. Edited June 29, 2013 by sobek Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivoune Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Thing is, from our point of view it is indeed rather obvious what needs to be done and easy solutions exists but from my experience, indie developers and tiny studios have a hard time in dealing with such things, because it takes an incredible amount of time and effort to communicate properly & keep everyone updated, that's as much time and resources away from developing. There usually isn't a full time paid community manager to support such tiny projects and with good reasons. ^^ Edited July 1, 2013 by Vivoune [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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