giiams Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Ok this might be stupid but.... how do I fly a loop? Every time I try I just end up nose up, and then doing this retarded stalling/flopping maneuver. I am flying no flaps, 2700ish rpm, 47-60'' manifold pressure. If someone could give me step by step, that would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Ok this might be stupid but.... how do I fly a loop? Aye and welcome to the forums. Herewith a pictorial illustration of the elevator/pitch input needed for a successful loof or a SSD (Stall, Spin and Die): Herewith elevator input for successful loop: Herewith elevator input for stall, spin and die: See what little difference there is? Above inputs taken from the following vid: Ti65sRxOXgE IIRC this vid done with Rockets, Bombs and full fuel so she's grossly overweight as well. Just watch how far you pull :) Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Falcon Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Actually, Viper, the biggest difference i can see that would be causing the stall is the fact the rudder is centered in the 2nd picture. Causing the plane to side slip. Stalling one wing, spin and die. Video is a good watch though. Already forgotten how to take-off in the bloody thing myself. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giiams Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 ok Thank you for the welcome. Taking off I can do! I will try what you said Viper. I need to use some rudder...? Or leave rudder dead center? Also while flying, the plane constantly lists to one side. Typically right. I cannot seem to get aileron trim to do anything but make my controller vibrate. The unfortunate thing is, I am using a dual shock controller now... heh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pman Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 To get a straight loop in the stang you will need a good turn of speed leading into it and a thump of right rudder and some left stick to correct, done correctly you come out perfectly straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giiams Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Yay I got it to loop!!! I'm going to have to buy a stick to enjoy this game though, I think. Edited June 25, 2013 by giiams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimFreak Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Yay I got it to loop!!! I'm going to have to buy a stick to enjoy this game though, I think. Yeah, joystick is a must. rudders are highly desirable. Throttles are needed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo38 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I need to use some rudder...? Or leave rudder dead center? You need to use however much rudder it takes to keep the ball centered. "Ball" meaning the slip-and-skid indicator around the middle of the instrument panel--if you haven't found it yet, it's the little ball the slides around when you kick the rudder. If the ball is off-center, you're more prone to stall & spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I find that a little slip in a loop isn't killer. When I start a loop, I glance down at the accelerometer by the oil temp/pressure gauge: starting a loop at 4.5g or 5g anywhere above about 225 mph is about the best you can do. More than that, and you'll end up at too high an angle of attack, and it won't work out well in the end. Black Shark, Harrier, and Hornet pilot Many Words - Serial Fiction | Ka-50 Employment Guide | Ka-50 Avionics Cheat Sheet | Multiplayer Shooting Range Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pman Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I find that a little slip in a loop isn't killer. When I start a loop, I glance down at the accelerometer by the oil temp/pressure gauge: starting a loop at 4.5g or 5g anywhere above about 225 mph is about the best you can do. More than that, and you'll end up at too high an angle of attack, and it won't work out well in the end. When we are in formation we wont even consider a loop below 320mph Depending on how well trimmed you are at entry speed will determine how much rudder you need to keep it straight, pulling a loop is easy, pulling a straight loop not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Could I trouble you for some tips on throttle/prop RPM for formation flying? When I flew last night, I was juggling both to keep up with/not fly past my leader. Would setting RPM a little bit above his setting and working the throttle only be a better way to do it? Black Shark, Harrier, and Hornet pilot Many Words - Serial Fiction | Ka-50 Employment Guide | Ka-50 Avionics Cheat Sheet | Multiplayer Shooting Range Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted June 25, 2013 ED Team Share Posted June 25, 2013 Could I trouble you for some tips on throttle/prop RPM for formation flying? When I flew last night, I was juggling both to keep up with/not fly past my leader. Would setting RPM a little bit above his setting and working the throttle only be a better way to do it? You can set rpm above or low - it means almost nothing... :) Anyway, there are some tips: - the higher rpm you set, the more braking effect will be at idle throttle. So, there is more opportunity to be more aggressive joining a leader. - the same rpm as your leader allows him to announce what MP you must have to flight in formation. Obviously, you need to use only throttle to stay at place. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pman Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Could I trouble you for some tips on throttle/prop RPM for formation flying? When I flew last night, I was juggling both to keep up with/not fly past my leader. Would setting RPM a little bit above his setting and working the throttle only be a better way to do it? Generally with my formation flying I set my manifold as close to the leader as I can and then work the manifold to maintain position along with cheating turns etc to bring position back, there is some moving of the manifold pressure needed as its impossible to stay on wing with no movement of the throttle at all. hth Pman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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