Tunguska SA-19

[Buzpilot]

Is this a Maveric bug, or did ED make Tunguska superstealthy now?

 

A-10C vs Tunguska SA-19 Grizon.miz

Edited June 19, 2013 by Buzpilot

[adese]

I've actually been having the same issue in Instant Action. I fire of either an AGM-65D or H and the missile never makes it. After about 10 seconds it is gone (can't even see it anymore in F6). Interestingly enough, the SAM's missile also goes missing after firing (only if I also fire on it).

 

This seems to only have become a problem in the current version as I periodically fly the Instant Action.

[EchoMasterMind]

Some air defence units can shoot down Mavericks now. That's probably it.

[Blooze]

This issue was explored at length in this thread http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=105586&highlight=tunguska

[NineLine]

Tunguska will shoot down Mavs currently, its a known issue.

 

Here is a vid from Viper showing how to engage the Sa-19

 

[Gunnergolly]

Have noticed today that once the SA-19 has expended all it's missiles you can circle around it very close and it will not engage you with its cannons..... it will track you but it will not fire..

[Buzpilot]

Maybe you guys have gone blind or something, but this is NOT about the ability for Tunguska to shoot down Maverics.

One Clue, I didn't shoot one single Maveric.

Edited June 19, 2013 by Buzpilot

[Keshman]

From the Russian part of the forum. About Tunguska.

I think you know who it is Chizh

Originally Posted by Chizh

Тунгуска в новом патче 1.2.5 не будет обнаруживать тактические ракеты воздух-земля.

Originally Posted by Chizh

Tunguska in the new patch 1.2.5 will not detect tactical air-to-ground missiles.

[Buzpilot]

Tunguska will shoot down Mavs currently, its a known issue.

 

Here is a vid from Viper showing how to engage the Sa-19

 

 

 

The BIG difference here, is that in this video, Maveric lock's up 7.2 miles away, in mine, it never lock's up.

[159th_Viper]

The BIG difference here, is that in this video, Maveric lock's up 7.2 miles away, in mine, it never lock's up.

 

Is it the same with I/R Mavs?

[Gunnergolly]

Viper is using the IR Maverick which has much better range and target locking ability.

 

You look to be using the TV Maverick which relies on contrast and in certain conditions may never be able to lock a target up...... about 4-5 miles is about right for the TV sensor.

[Buzpilot]

Viper is using the IR Maverick which has much better range and target locking ability.

 

You look to be using the TV Maverick which relies on contrast and in certain conditions may never be able to lock a target up...... about 4-5 miles is about right for the TV sensor.

 

 

I tried this With both types. And in video, I turned away at 3.9 miles without getting Lock. And the dark dot in middle of maveric camera, suggest it's not a contrast problem.

Edited June 19, 2013 by Buzpilot

[159th_Viper]

I tried this With both types. And in video, I turned away at 3.9 miles without getting Lock. And the dark dot in middle of maveric camera, suggest it's not a contrast problem.

 

OK - had a look at your mission. Is there a reason for so much Tunguska's? Which one are you attempting to target?

[Buzpilot]

OK - had a look at your mission. Is there a reason for so much Tunguska's? Which one are you attempting to target?

 

The reason I added a column of more, was I wanted to check if there was difference between moving and stationary. Moving should definitly be hotter if this was the reason to my lack of locking on to them, I also used LGB's with no problems, but they just follow laser.

 

Edit; Secondary reason, it's always fun with successfully Escapes :)

 

Is it the same with I/R Mavs?

 

Yes. ( I made it to about 3.4 this time)

I made another video With IR, in case it's different on Your Version, Viper.

 

A-10C vs Tunkuska SA-19 IR.trk

Edited June 19, 2013 by Buzpilot

[159th_Viper]

.... in mine, it never lock's up.....

 

Really stoopid question, but you are mashing TMS Fwd Short, right? Reason I ask is that I took your mission and removed all the Tungs bar one and put it in the valley on the road. Ingressed and got track at 5.8nm with the H-Mav. Waited till Tung launch, launched the Mav and defeated the incoming missile by manoeuvring until my Mav tanked the Tung:

 

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As you can see, no issues for me. Try it with the edited mission and see if you get the same:

 

A-10C vs Tunguska SA-19 Grizon.miz

[Buzpilot]

Really stoopid question, but you are mashing TMS Fwd Short, right? Reason I ask is that I took your mission and removed all the Tungs bar one and put it in the valley on the road. Ingressed and got track at 5.8nm with the H-Mav. Waited till Tung launch, launched the Mav and defeated the incoming missile by manoeuvring until my Mav tanked the Tung:

 

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As you can see, no issues for me. Try it with the edited mission and see if you get the same:

 

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Hmm, now I feel stupid , I have mostly played A-10A lately, and Su-25. And forgot about the tms short forward. Maybe delete this thread :)

Was it like this on standalone Versions, can't really belive i should forget that one.

[159th_Viper]

Important thing is that you got it sorted :)