Miroo Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Hi i am RQ-03 Miroo ; from the virtual French 3rd-wing . we are a team of pilots flying on several planes of DCS & FC3 .I am flying at the 279th KIAP squadron with 6 others pilots on the Su-33 Flanker D. During the last updates of DCS we mad the sad fact that the Su-33 is not considered during the bug fix process .The "Flanker D" didn't benefit of any major upgrade since the FC3 release: ·1.2.3 update : -FC3. Fixed Su-33 sinking to the Kuznetsov deck near the superstructure. -FC3. Fixed simulator hang after ALT J jumping into an Su-33. -FC3. Fixed data link for clients in multiplayer - MiG-29S and Su-27/33. -Added S-8TsM and S-8OFP2 rockets to inventory of MiG-29A/G/S and Su-33 -Corrected Su-27/30/33/34 engine thrust value 1.2.4 update: -New skins for the Su-27 and Su-33. -Fixed Su-33 getting stuck near island on the Kuznetsov deck This led to get a Beta Su-33 on FC3 (which is no longer a beta!!). And more interesting, that the only carrier based aircraft get the ugliest 3D model compared to the other aircrafts: -The nose, the EOS, the back of the engines and the canopy are octagons; -The air intakes are blackened, compressors and turbines are absents; -The nozzles are static and fixed in the closed position even with idle rpm or after burner. -The landing gear is without details. It’s a joke comparing to the same family Flanker Su-27 Model; although the aircrafts have a very similar geometry. Now let’s go inside the cockpit; we still have a 2D cockpit a bit below the Ricardo HD cockpit in FC2 , when the A-10A , F-15c ,Su-25 and the Su-27 get full 3D 6DOF cockpits (did they pay a more expensive license….i don’t think so !!!) . What are the differences between the 27/33 cockpits? -04 LEDs in the armament control panel; -The AOA indicator; -01 LED in the gear system indicator for the tailhook . That’s all folks ….The question then is: Why the Flanker D wasn’t upgraded with a 3D cockpit 6DOF??! I can’t understand, and I am sure that I am not the only one, why ED is neglecting the Su-33. I think that is a good opportunity to develop the Su-27 with its aircraft carrier version for further modules in mid core , this will allow a wider choice to fans of the Flankers , and to keep a balance US/RUS if the Hornet F-18c is coming out as announced . Anyway, here a list of some bugs found during multiplayer session with the last update of DCS 1.2.4: In this session there were 1Host and 2 clients · When the three aircrafts are on the carrier; the host see the clients’ aircraft floating up at 1 meter from the deck, and the clients see the host also floating; but client/client there is no problem. · Abnormal response of the nose wheel during movements of the aircraft carrier with the waves. · Onset aircraft shifted and lagged on the deck before takeoff, the host and the client1 see themselves in the right positions but both of them see the client 2 shifted from his reported position on the deck about 50-100 meter this what the host an client2 see : And this what the client 1 see .And also the client 2 see the host and the client 1 shifted from there reported positions . · Strange effect of the wind when taxiing on airfields. For example if there a wind coming from the right, the plane is deported to the right O_o???! And here are some wishes for the next update ^_^ · Getting a better 3D model of the Su-33 and also a new full 3D 6DOF cockpit ; · A better AFM for the Su-33; · When selecting on the mission editor: “ takeoff from ramp” , starting in the slots of the parking area on the deck with engines stopped just like an airfield , this is to avoid starting two or more aircrafts on the same position . We hope this post will help ED team to improve the Su-33 in further updates of DCS/FC-3, and also keep in mind that the Su-33 is still a very popular within the community ... So keep him alive. Thanks Edited May 22, 2013 by Miroo 5 [sigpic][/sigpic] I7 7700K@5.2GHZ+ NZXT X62 AIO Water cooling MSI Z270 Gaming M7 + CORSAIRE VENGEANCE PRO 16GB @3200MHZ DDR4 + MSI GTX1080ti gaming edition+ SSD SAMSUNG 850EVO PRO 128 Go + SSD SAMSUNG 850EVO PRO 240 Go + HDD SAMSUNG 1 To+ HDD SEAGATE 3 To Asus ROG Swift PG348Q / Oculus rift Case Coolermaster Mastercase 6 + CORSAIRE RM750W Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog +Logitech G rudder pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ishtmail Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 +1 I would very much like to fly a 6DOF SU33 with an upgraded external 3D model. And AFM. Should ED make this a new standalone module, I'd buy it in an instant. DCS A10C Warthog, DCS Black Shark 2, DCS P51D Mustang, DCS UH-1H Huey, DCS Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight, Flaming Cliffs 3, Combined Arms System: Intel i7 4770k @4,2GHz; MSI Z87-G65; 16GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM; 128GB SSD SATA3 (system disk); 2TB HDD SATA3 (games disk); Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X; Windows 7 64bit Flight controls: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog; Saitek Pro Flight Combat Rudder; TrackIR 5; Thrustmaster F16 MFDs; 2x 8'' LCD screens (VGA) for MFD display; 27'' LG LCD full HD main display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alfa Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 What are the differences between the 27/33 cockpits? Too numerous to list. -04 LEDs in the armament control panel; If you mean the station readiness panel, then exactly that shouldn't be different - the real Su-33 pit has the same one as in the Su-27(only 10 stations indicated). -The AOA indicator; -01 LED in the gear system indicator for the tailhook . That’s all folks …. I suggest you take a closer look - then you might realise that practically everything is different. - the front instrument panel and varies instruments are different - the side consoles/instrumentation are different - varies handles and other bits that arent properly replicated in the sim's current Su-33 pit. The question then is: Why the Flanker D wasn’t upgraded with a 3D cockpit 6DOF??! I cannot speak for ED, but the fact that the Su-33 pit is completely different from the Su-27 ditto would seem to have something to do with it. JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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