FC3 Bug thread

[GGTharos]

I think having test-fired something close to 2000 missiles has rocketed me far out of the box :P

[Corrigan]

Sometimes (it seems consistently only when supersonic) there's a weird sound when firing missiles. Like this:

 

 

It is, I suppose, a sonic boom: Both the observer in the jet and the missile are supersonic and travelling alongside each other at some finite separation, and the observer is overtaken by the missile. So that explains the abruptness of the start of the sound, I think. However, it seems to die off as abruptly, which I think is unphysical. Also, it seems far too loud.

You can see me looking around in the video to see if it depends on head position, which is doesn't seem to.

Any ideas?

[71st_Mastiff]

check your sound play back its either in 16 sounds or 32 its actually the rocket motors firing sound your hearing.. if your on a sound onbored chip invest into a sound card.

[Corrigan]

I don't mean to be rude, but to get a new sound card is most probably very bad advice. This is clearly a game issue, whatever it is. And I know it's the rocket engine making the sound, my issue is with how quickly it dies off, and how loud it is. You can hear the booster after the loud sound too, so there's something fishy.

Or am I missing something?

Edited March 12, 2013 by Corrigan

[GGTharos]

[Corrigan]

Cool video! But it doesn't sound the same, does it? Maybe I'm not making myself clear? Or perhaps I'm being stupid. I know we should hear the booster, but why is it so loud? And why does it stop so suddenly?

This is what it looks like in graph form:

 

 

But hey, if I'm the only one hearing something strange, I guess it doesn't matter.

[GGTharos]

It's just a sound engine issue. It may or may not be fixable.

[Corrigan]

Roger that, as suspected. Knowing probably less than you do about the engine, I'd guess it isn't fixable. Nice to know I'm not going crazy, at least.

[Exorcet]

Meant to post this for a while now, F-15 with two wing mounted tanks shows left and centerline pylons as fuel in the cockpit. The right pylon is listed as empty.

 

I've only really flown online in 1.2.3, so I'm not completely sure if the MFD is wrong or if the problem is with assigning load outs. It happens both when I try making a load out from scratch and when loading a saved load out that worked in 1.2.2.

[GGTharos]

Already fixed in 124 IIRC.

[Silver_Dragon]

Already fixed in 124 IIRC.

 

Release Candidate? :music_whistling:

[159th_Viper]

I agree wholeheartedly with the Su-27 TWS situation brought up by some of our guys above. In its current state it is quite broken.

 

Reported - will update bugs list accordingly.

 

 

The only other issue I can think of is lack of slewable EOS for the Flanker....

 

#97 and #98 on the bug-list.

 

 

...and perhaps a Time To Impact timer for missiles...

 

#95 on the bug-list.

[159th_Viper]

Lists Updated:

 

RESOLVED:

 

1 - F15 Gear up = black textures

3 - F15 ADI switched

4 - F15 Virtual head movement excessive

5 - Russian planes Cannot lock contact in TWS

6 - AK arrestor cables not animated

7 - SU33 loadout indicators reversed in cockpit

8 - Refuelling F15/SU33 buggy

9 - F15 VSD text overlap when STT/Guns

10 - F15 external lights absent in flight

11 - Damage modelling to wheels/landing gear absent

12 - F15 HUD unreadable

13 - Russian planes Nav circle misalignment in ENR/RTN modes

14 - Engines/Afterburner on even though engines on fire.

15 - R27ER no loft trajectory

16 - Mig31 nosewheel not grounded

17 - Canopy jettison animation wrong

18 - EOS scanning not functional in elevation

21 - SU-27 native HUD "ИЗЛ" symbol overlaps over distance scale in BVR mode with Radar on

22 - F15 HUD indications overlapping

24 - HUD contacts in front appears also in Rear Aspect Mode

25 - Frontal aspect HUD contacts appears in Rear radar mode and can be locked

26 - SU33 Green HUD block at night effect

27 - A10 ADI switched

28 - F15 black cockpit pixelation when facing northerly direction (afternoon)

31 - Graphical glith (hash marks) in lower centre of SU27 HUD when zoomed out

32 - Graphical glith (hash marks) in lower centre of SU33 HUD when zoomed out

33 - F15 no drag increase with external fuel tanks

34 - Flyables smoke pod colours are incorrectly designated

35 - Scripting for cobra not present

36 - AIM-120C/R-77 tracks target beyond gimbal limits ONLY IF platform's radar reacquires target

37 - Ballistic AIM-120C/R-77 locks target beyond FOV/Gimbal limits ONLY IF platform's radar reacquires target

38 - SU27 automated leading edge flaps on flanker are shown in pit instruments as regular flaps

40 - FC2/FC3 mission incompatibility

41 - F-15C CTD initiated by changing the weapons (CTD when the player lock in the NAV mode a target with the radar and change the weapons)

45 - F15 unable to adjust altimeter pressure setting at all.

49 - Missiles expend too much speed when turning

52 - Helicopters are exhibiting stealth characteristics

54 - SU33/27, Mig29 RWR does not indicate A.I. missile launch

60 - Multiplayer datalink not functional for Russian aircraft

64 - AIM9 drops away before accelerating at launch

61 - F15 no afterburner LED on right panel to indicate burner lit

62 - F15 flaps do not induce any drag

63 - F15 strange attitude/behaviour with crosswind landings

66 - Mig29 flaps not extending to full 25 degrees

68 - Mig29 flaps are blown in by wind at very low airspeeds

69 - Mig29 Chaff and Flare loaded amount incorrect when rearming in game, via the radio (Alt + ' ) menu

70 - Russian planes slip indicators and HSI offset from centre

72 - Multiplayer exhaust nozzle expansion not visible to other clients

78 - Missile smoke discoloured/blue effect

79 - F15 does not repair

83 - SU27 Engines fully functional even when on fire

84 - SU33 Command IAS too low in LDG mode

85 - SU33 In-cockpit Weapons station indicator has 11 stations lit instead of 12

86 - SU33/27 and Mig29 Missile fire Zone computations bugged

88 - Multiplayer Mig-29 repair on ground/at airbase not functioning

89 - SU25A Wrong Chaff and flare count. 128 places instead of 256, model and skin shows 8*32 dispensers

90 - SU 25A/T MDB-67-U 4*FAB-100 modell is incorrect, FAB-100 bombs too close to each other

91 - SU25A Gunpods operation cannot be asigned to axis

93 - Missiles not aligned with weapons-pylon when SU-33 wings are folded

94 - R-77 not select-able whilst in Fi0 mode

96 - ILS Bugs/Inconsistencies in SU-27

103 - Multiplayer: If client is killed by other player/unit he does not get losses in stats

107 - SU27 Flaps retraction audio is played twice instead of once

108 - Wind does not affect chaff, flares and smoke markers

110 - Mig29A can be rearmed with R27ER and R27ET in ingame rearming menu

112 - SU25A/T takeoff flaps is shown as landing flaps on client aircraft

114 - F15C mission wingman #4 in radio menu

116 - SU25A Inner Flaps defaults to the Russian SU-25 1st skin in external view

119 - Mig29 External Fuel tank creates no drag

120 - SU25A Gear Lights Far setting not functioning correctly

121 - SU-27 visible as large black dot from extreme visual distance

127 - No RWR warning received from SAM site launches (Ground and Ship)

128 - Mig-31 nosewheel not grounded while taxiing

129 - Mig-29 Over the Hump Campaign freezes when selecting the mission planner from the campaign menu

131 - Failures system not operational in a MP environment

136 - Mig29A,S and SU33 cannot use B-8OFP2 and B-8TsM

137 - SIM crash on exiting campaign missions

139 - MiG-29, Su-27 and Su-33 when in BVR mode Speed on HUD shown is TAS as opposed to IAS

142 - The NEZ (No-Escape-Zone) calculations are reversed

143 - SU-25T unable to fire Vikhrs in salvo mode

146 - FC3 F15 is displaying Degrees AOA instead of units of AOA

149 - A10-A AOA Indexer not functional

 

 

UNRESOLVED:

 

 

2 - Mig29S external fuel tanks not displayed on fuel tape

19 - SU-27 cockpit textures include English labels. Not consistent translation. Examples: MSL and GUN on the weapons panel

20 - SU27 entire RWR is in English

23 - Su-25, Su-25T and Mig-29 Caution, Warning and Trim lights are in english instead of russian letters

29 - MIG29 Command Airspeed in LDG mode way below minimum

30 - SU27 Command Airspeed in LDG mode slightly below minimum

39 - SU27 when leading edge flaps are operational audio is heard for normal flaps

42 - SU33 floating on pitching AK deck

43 - SU27/33 weapon panel characters misalignment if the cockpit illumination is on

44 - G940 HOTAS FFB issues/not functioning correctly

46 - F-15C antenna does not track PTD in elevation with TWS

47 - Air to Air missiles do not have INS

48 - ECM uses FC2 behaviour in DCS world

50 - Short range missiles do not turn hard enough

51 - Virtual Pilot G-Tolerance is too low

53 - SU25A Airbrake Pylons keep defaulting to the Russian SU-25 1st skin and the bort numbers become an outline in external view when zoomed out

55 - Russian HUD guidance symbology in LNDG mode incorrect - missing glide slope error circle at certain runways

56 - Russian plane pilots have corrupted Pilot head textures at night

57 - Russian planes have corrupted landing light animations

58 - Missile HOJ mode not functional

59 - Mig29 incorrect flaps deployed for player-controlled aircraft

65 - Chimney smoke visible through undercast

67 - Mig 29A flap extension animation incorrect

71 - Multiplayer audio from other players not present (drogue chute)

73 - SU27 gets AoA warning of F15

74 - Water not visible in mirrors of FC3 aircraft

75 - Wingtip vapour effect missing from flyables

76 - SU25A antenna on nose cannot be seen from cockpit

77 - Contrails misaligned/too close to engines of aircraft

80 - Multiplayer clients do not see SU25A/T airbrake deployment

81 - F15 turbine fans not spinning

82 - F15 Gun pipper tracking issue (Impact point below target)

87 - F15 AIR intakes appears to be without any animation

92 - Disappearing player names from the menu in multi-monitor setups

95 - No TTI indicator on Mig29/SU27/SU33

97 - EOS do not scan the whole FOV, when in BVR mode

98 - SU27/SU33 lack EOS Narrow Mode Scan

99 - Russian Helmet Designator Circle stays on target after lock

100 - IRST sensor is Gyro-stabilized in search mode

101 - No audio tone when HMS locks target

102 - HMS Targeting Ring behaviour/illustration incorrect

104 - Mig29 Canopy Jettison lever transparent at night

105 - Russian Pilot kneeboard showing incorrect map of Crimea

106 - SU27 audio for flaps deployment not heard in external view

109 - No heat blur on jet engines when spooling up or at idle

111 - SU25A/T drogue chute cap remains open after first rearming

113 - F-15. Mig29, SU27, SU33 Localizer Deviation Bar exhibits incorrect behaviour in banking maneuvers

115 - Floating Ghost Missiles in Multiplayer

117 - Contrails visible through Clouds

118 - Landing reference lights on Admiral Kuznetsov very dim and unclear

122 - SU-33, SU-27 and Mig-29 Gear Lights Halo not visible at night

123 - F-15C Misalignment between under-fuselage weapons-pylons 4,5,7 and 8 and missiles

124 - Touch smoke only draws when the 2nd main wheel make contact with the ground on landing

125 - SU25,25T, Mig29, SU27 and SU33 Cockpit lighting incorrect colour

126 - SU27 Mirror textures corrupt

129 - The lofting dynamics of the AIM-120B/C borked/non-functional

130 - F15 Flood Mode functionality incorrect

132 - No airbrake sounds for SU25A/T

133 - Incorrect cockpit lighting for A-10A

134 - MP all aircraft receive all radio chatter from friendly airbases

135 - FC3 flyables missing external cockpit lighting texture

138 - Weapon Quantity selector in Su-25 and Su-25T not working for Rockets

140 - Su-33 falls through Kuznetsov (on landing)

141 - Su-33 hooks aircraft carrier rope at distance about 10 km

144 - SU-25T no weapons-station indications in HUD when Vikhrs selected

145 - Russian Fighters HUD improvement

147 - SU-33 sticks to the runway in cross-wind conditions

148 - Game Mode F-15 unable to track/lock targets in BVR mode

150 - F-15C Navigation lights reflections swapped

151 - Admiral Kuznetsov ATC not available

152 - Admiral-Kuznetsov ATC cannot handle multiple flights without causing collisions

153 - F-15C Fuel Consumption Guage is showing wrong fuel consumption

154 - SU33/SU27 HDD Incorrectly rendered

155 - A-10A LAU-61*3 Rocket Launchers low-resolution model

156 - F-15C Pincer Left Command to Wingman non-functional

157 - SU-27 Rudder no animation when Autopilot engaged in crosswind

158 - SU-27 Gear Lights not functioning correctly

159 - Ground Unit A.I. reacts immediately/unreasonably when player is first spotted

160 - Air Unit A.I. reacts immediately/unreasonably when player is first spotted

161 - 161- R27ER RMAX and Rtr values too short-ranged

162 - R-77 RMAX and Rtr values too short-ranged

163 - Player unable to override automatic target selection whilst in TWS mode

164 - FC3 Fighters Fragile Landing Gear

165 - SU-27/Mig-29 pitch control inputs lacking/locked immediately after take-off

166 - F-15C Tanker AP Won't Disengage online

 

 

 

 

Any questions/clarifications just shout.

Edited March 16, 2013 by 159th_Viper

[Breakshot]

you mentioned the Kobra script being resolved. Can you please clarify...

 

is it now possible to activate it through control lua files? or has the maneuver been totally removed?

 

if its possible to get it activated like in FC2, can someone specify the steps needed to do that?

 

thanx in advance!

[159th_Viper]

you mentioned the Kobra script being resolved. Can you please clarify...

 

Scripting was removed by the Devs.

[Corrigan]

"Resolved" refers to internal builds, yes?

[159th_Viper]

"Resolved" refers to internal builds, yes?

 

Yes, although the majority should already have filtered through.

[Teknetinium]

Su-27 TWS and EOS is not on the bug list. Why so if it was working closer to the real thing in FC2. I would like to know what is going on whit that since Su-27 pilots cant use TWS or EOS anymore.

Edited March 14, 2013 by Teknetinium

[Breakshot]

In certain circumstances, when landing in SMF Russian A/C, upon the initial touch down, if its a bounce the second touch would make the gear go straight through the runway resulting in instant crash and death...

 

I think there is a bug with the landing model somewhere... anyone else aware of this?

[159th_Viper]

Su-27 TWS and EOS is not on the bug list. Why so if it was working closer to the real thing in FC2. I would like to know what is going on whit that since Su-27 pilots cant use TWS or EOS anymore.

 

What part of 97, 98 and 163 is unclear, keeping in mind that I have specifically confirmed that these issues are being addressed?

 

You don't believe me? Is that it?

[Sawamura]

Here is something, I noticed some time ago. Not sure, if this is the right place to post it, but maybe someone has a better idea, if this is actually a bug, or a feature. If it's a feature, then it's something, that should be erased, cause it's a big handicap.

 

I tested this with the Su-27 and Mig-29S on the 1.2.3. version of DCS.

On the take off, on the exact moment, when you just lift of from the ground, the pull/push is locked. More specific: The aircraft follows only a certain amount of pull but then stays and locks it. If you then try to pull the stick fully back, the aircrafts will not follow this input and just keeps flying the relativly smaller amount of pull. You can see your stick in the cockpit going all the way to your belly, but the aircraft is doing nothing. After about 3 - 4 seconds, it is then possible to regain fully control of the pull and push.

 

This may be not noticable on formation take offs or combat operations, but I noticed this, flying some practice rounds of my solo aerobatic display.

 

Try it yourself and share your thoughts. I'm very curious, what is going on there. If you, for some reason, can not reproduce this situation, I can then also record a track.

[Buzpilot]

TDC slew in A-10A moving random direction to begin with, is still here.

The range to lock seem too short too, but it's hard to tell when TDC moves so randomly on short moves.

The track shows basicly the first target is hard to slew and lock, the next ones go smoother because i'm inside lock range.

Used Hotas slew, saturated to 20.

TDC slew A-10A bug.trk

Edited March 14, 2013 by Buzpilot

[Teknetinium]

What part of 97, 98 and 163 is unclear, keeping in mind that I have specifically confirmed that these issues are being addressed?

 

You don't believe me? Is that it?

 

sorry Im missed that Viper. Thank you.

[104th_Maverick]

Is a bug with the landing model somewhere... anyone else aware of this?

 

 

Yes mate this is not exclusive to the SU-27, I've already reported it to the Devs so it should hopefully be fixed soon.

[HiJack]

Ok, so the F-15 landing bug is reported but still not on the bug list?