Teknetinium Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 EOS bug not sorted yet 1 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPixxel Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) Missiles perform really well, and a fix of the radar ranges was a very pleasant supruse!! Thanks alot! Unfortunately the radar/OLS transition fix did not make it in the update, maybe you can add it in case there is a hotfix in a few days. Edited April 14, 2021 by BlackPixxel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, BlackPixxel said: fix of the radar ranges ARe you referring to the F-18? Or did any of the FC3 jets get any changes Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPixxel Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, dundun92 said: ARe you referring to the F-18? Or did any of the FC3 jets get any changes Both! I did not try the F-15 (I don't know what ranges it had pre-patch), but the other FC3 aircraft got changed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotenDead Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 минуты назад, BlackPixxel сказал: Both! I did not try the F-15 (I don't know what ranges it had pre-patch), but the other FC3 aircraft got changed! Что, МиГ-29 больше не слепой котенок? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPixxel Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TotenDead said: Что, МиГ-29 больше не слепой котенок? It still is, but lookdown is now according to the manual. Quite a good improvement! Still no difference between 29A and 29S though. Edited April 14, 2021 by BlackPixxel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) @ChizhThe 27ER/ET got new motor values but for the boost stage its current values are 54945N (~12,350lbs) of thrust for 2 seconds with a mass flow rate of 13.83. This yields an ISP value of ~404s, which is well above the theoretical maximum limit of the modern smokeless propellant of the C5 which should peak out around the 255s-265s range. While older generations of missiles, such as the AIM-7, are in the 230s-245s range. A value of 23.83kg/s would make a lot more sense, as such is it a typo? Edited April 14, 2021 by nighthawk2174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, nighthawk2174 said: @ChizhThe 27ER/ET got new motor values but for the boost stage its current values are 54945N (~12,350lbs) of thrust for 2 seconds with a mass flow rate of 13.83. This yields an ISP value of ~404s, which is well above the theoretical maximum limit of the modern smokeless propellant of the C5 which should peak out around the 255s-265s range. While older generations of missiles, such as the AIM-7, are in the 230s-245s range. A value of 23.83kg/s would make a lot more sense, as such is it a typo? howd you get the mass flow numbers? I cant find the missiles_data.lua file anymore. Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) Just now, dundun92 said: howd you get the mass flow numbers? I cant find the missiles_data.lua file anymore. It's still in my database/weapons folder odd Edited April 14, 2021 by nighthawk2174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said: It's still in my database/weapons folder odd ?????????? Another squadron member also confimed its missing for him, even after a repair... this really is weird Edited April 14, 2021 by dundun92 Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, dundun92 said: ?????????? Another squadron member also confimed its missing for him... this really is weird interesting I just updated as per normal guess it didn't remove them for me? Edit: yeah they just weren't removed for me and a few of them got scrambled for some reason. So ignore my last post. Edited April 14, 2021 by nighthawk2174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakshot Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Can we confirm the EO bug still not fixed for ER behaviour?Отправлено с моего STV100-2 через Tapatalk 3 Tim "Breakshot" Mytrofanov | C.O. of 51 ПВО / 100 КИАП Regiments | twitch.tv/51breakshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPixxel Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Breakshot said: Can we confirm the EO bug still not fixed for ER behaviour? Отправлено с моего STV100-2 через Tapatalk Still not fixed: Instant transition to OLS when in radar lookdown as soon as the target is in the notch. In the video it happens twice. One it is in the 90° notch, the second time it is in the altitude clutter notch (0 closure rate). From what the developers wrote it seemed as it the issue was fixed, so maybe it was just forgotten to be merged. Hopefully there will be a small patch or hotfix soon where this fix can be added. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoarfrost Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 часов назад, BlackPixxel сказал: From what the developers wrote it seemed as it the issue was fixed, so maybe it was just forgotten to be merged. Hopefully there will be a small patch or hotfix soon where this fix can be added. Андрей это так? Забыли включить изменение или...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Chizh Posted April 16, 2021 Author ED Team Share Posted April 16, 2021 Когда будет готово - включим. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, Chizh said: Когда будет готово - включим. Is motor on/motor off drag difference modeled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Chizh Posted April 16, 2021 Author ED Team Share Posted April 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said: Is motor on/motor off drag difference modeled? Not. We do not counting the base drag now. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, Chizh said: Not. We do not counting the base drag now. Something i've been thinking about; you choose the new thrust values based on the document you showed us earlier correct? Did they take this into account (i'd be surprised if they didn't)? As such IRL the motor is a bit weaker but the drag reduction makes up for it to match what we have now. As such the ER/ET are now matching what they probably are irl but other missiles are not (such as the AIM-7 where we got the motor data from the SMC document) where they probably boost to a somewhat higher speed irl but not in game right now due to this not being simulated. Something to consider imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Маэстро Posted April 16, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 16, 2021 Aim-7 and aim-120 use new FM which models drag reduction due to thrust. YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just now, Маэстро said: Aim-7 and aim-120 use new FM which models drag reduction due to thrust. Understood by how much is it reduced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Маэстро Posted April 16, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said: Understood by how much is it reduced? As much as it should For AIM-7 this reduction known from docs/real wind tunnel tests, for AIM-120 from our CFD research. 2 YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just now, Маэстро said: As much as it should For AIM-7 this reduction known from docs/real wind tunnel tests, for AIM-120 from our CFD research. Rog so in the 21%'ish range for the AIM7 and probably not to different for the 120? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoarfrost Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 07.04.2021 в 22:00, strelok2014 сказал: Да сколько можно уже... Где теперь ближайшие апдейты смотреть? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Маэстро Posted April 16, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said: Rog so in the 21%'ish range for the AIM7 and probably not to different for the 120? I hope so. At least ballistics of AIM-7 matches the real one, ballistics of AIM-120 should be close to real one. YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBAC Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 часа назад, Маэстро сказал: Aim-7 and aim-120 use new FM which models drag reduction due to thrust. Это уже в 2.7 так? То есть, в 2.7 сократили сопротивление? К.В.А.С. - Командное Виртуальное Авиационное Сообщество Группа в ВКонтакте: https://vk.com/kbackomi Наш Дискорд: https://discord.com/invite/5tQ7JyWhyJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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