How to set up toggle switches (a tutorial)

[LeCuvier]

I find only find one "Jettison arm" in "clickabledata", and that is related to...

devices.WEAP_INTERFACE which is device 12 (not 22)

device_commands.Button_22 so the command number would be 3022 and not 3001

On this basis, I created the following line of code which seems to work:

{down = 3022, up = 3022, value_down = 1.0, value_up = -1.0, cockpit_device_id = 12, name = _('Jettison Fuse 2-Pos ARM/DISARM'), category = _('Ins Weapons Status and Control Panel PUI-800')},

But since the codes you used are totally different I'm not sure that this is really what you want. Let me know!

[epolta]

22 minutes ago, LeCuvier said:

I'm not sure that this is really what you want. Let me know!

@LeCuvier

as always... you have saved me again!

This is exactly what I needed.. I was doing some more digging and had transposed the Up/Down value with the cockpit device ID, but I think You've finally made me see the light!!

thank you , thank you, thank you!

[epolta]

53 minutes ago, epolta said:

as always... you have saved me again!

@LeCuvier: Just when I think I've got this figured out,,, and start getting cocky.. I mess it all up again!

OK, Here's a few more I'm working on, but they don't seem to work and my brain hurts really bad now

 

two - two position switches for autopilot altitude mode and Heading mode.

AND... one last 3 position for the landing lights.

 

HELP!

 

 

-- Work in Progress

{down = 3033, up = 3033, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0, cockpit_device_id = 6, name = _('Autopilot BARO/RALT altitude hold 2-Pos'), category = _('Ins Autopilot')},
{down = 3028, up = 3028, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0, cockpit_device_id = 3, name = _('Autopilot Desired heading/track 2-Pos'), category = _('Ins Autopilot')},

{down = 3044, up = 3044, value_down = 1, value_up = 0, cockpit_device_id = 1 name = _('Landing Light 3-Pos Landing/Off'), category = _('Ins Landing Lights & Voice Warning Panel')},
{down = 3044, up = 3044, value_down = -1, value_up = 0, cockpit_device_id = 1, name = _('Landing Light 3-Pos Retract/Off'), category = _('Ins Landing Lights & Voice Warning Panel')},

[LeCuvier]

Let's try the first one step by step:

1. look up "devices.AUTOPILOT" in file "devices.lua" --> cockpit_device_id device_ID = 33

2. the button number in "clickabledata.lua" = 6 --> command code = 3000 + 6 = 3006

3. The value_up value for 2-position ON/OFF switches in the Ka-50 is mostly = -1.0

Looking at your first line, it seems that you got command and device mixed up.

So let's try this:

{down = 3006, up = 3006, value_down = 1.0, value_up = -1.0, cockpit_device_id = 33, name = _('Autopilot BARO/RALT altitude hold 2-Pos'), category = _('Ins Autopilot')},

Test it in the sim, and it works. I let you tackle the other commands using the same logic - you should get there.

If you get stuck, just holler and we'll look at it again.

Best regards to sunny Arizona!

[epolta]

5 hours ago, LeCuvier said:

Let's try the first one step by step:

1. look up "devices.AUTOPILOT" in file "devices.lua" --> cockpit_device_id device_ID = 33

2. the button number in "clickabledata.lua" = 6 --> command code = 3000 + 6 = 3006

3. The value_up value for 2-position ON/OFF switches in the Ka-50 is mostly = -1.0

Looking at your first line, it seems that you got command and device mixed up.

So let's try this:

{down = 3006, up = 3006, value_down = 1.0, value_up = -1.0, cockpit_device_id = 33, name = _('Autopilot BARO/RALT altitude hold 2-Pos'), category = _('Ins Autopilot')},

Test it in the sim, and it works. I let you tackle the other commands using the same logic - you should get there.

If you get stuck, just holler and we'll look at it again.

Best regards to sunny Arizona!

I think you have officially taught me to fish! Got em working... Thanks for your patience and mentoring

[epolta]

@LeCuvier

I'm back with another question...

I recently swapped out my warthog throttle for a virpil, but I want to maintain the 3 position flap functionality found on the warthog. To do this, I've added a button box on the side of the throttle with a  3 position switch, but I notice in the joystick default lua there isn't a middle flap position defined, so the normal tricks you've taught me don't work  I took a look at the clickable data and the device IDs and took a stab at it with no luck. Can this be done?

{down = 3002, up = 3002, cockpit_device_id = 39 , value_down = 1, value_up = 0, name = _('Flaps Up else middle'), category = _('Systems')},
{down = 3002, up = 3002, cockpit_device_id = 39 , value_down = -1, value_up = 0, name = _('Flaps Down else middle'), category = _('Systems')},

 

[LeCuvier]

@epolta: You don't give me any clue as to which aircraft this is for. The device ID's and command numbers differ from aircraft to aircraft. Also, without knowing which aircraft, I cannot test a solution

[epolta]

2 hours ago, LeCuvier said:

@epolta: You don't give me any clue as to which aircraft this is for. The device ID's and command numbers differ from aircraft to aircraft. Also, without knowing which aircraft, I cannot test a solution

Oops..

A-10C2

[LeCuvier]

Well that's easy. The file "Throttle - HOTAS Warthog.lua"   has these two lines for the 3-position flap switch:

{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN22'}}    ,down = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_UP, up = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_MNR_from_UP,name = _('Toggle Flaps Up'), category = _('Systems')},
{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN23'}}    ,down = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_DN, up = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_MNR_from_DN,name = _('Toggle Flaps Dn'), category = _('Systems')},

The statement "combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN22'}} " creates the default binding for the TM WH throttle and is obviously useless for the VRP throttle, so we take that out of both lines and get:

{down = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_UP, up = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_MNR_from_UP,name = _('Toggle Flaps Up'), category = _('Systems')},
{down = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_DN, up = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_MNR_from_DN,name = _('Toggle Flaps Dn'), category = _('Systems')},

Paste these two lines into "default.lua". So now you can bind these commands to the 3-position switch on your button box or on the VRP throttle.

I didn't test as it seems trivial. Good luck!

[epolta]

1 hour ago, LeCuvier said:

Well that's easy. The file "Throttle - HOTAS Warthog.lua"   has these two lines for the 3-position flap switch:

{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN22'}}    ,down = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_UP, up = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_MNR_from_UP,name = _('Toggle Flaps Up'), category = _('Systems')},
{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN23'}}    ,down = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_DN, up = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_MNR_from_DN,name = _('Toggle Flaps Dn'), category = _('Systems')},

The statement "combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN22'}} " creates the default binding for the TM WH throttle and is obviously useless for the VRP throttle, so we take that out of both lines and get:

{down = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_UP, up = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_MNR_from_UP,name = _('Toggle Flaps Up'), category = _('Systems')},
{down = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_DN, up = iCommandPlane_FLAPS_MNR_from_DN,name = _('Toggle Flaps Dn'), category = _('Systems')},

Paste these two lines into "default.lua". So now you can bind these commands to the 3-position switch on your button box or on the VRP throttle.

I didn't test as it seems trivial. Good luck!

easy for you  LOL.. As always.. Thanks!

[epolta]

I've got another one that's stumping me right now for the FW-190A8. I've recently updated my button box and the canopy is only an on/off switch. I'm trying to get the switch to close the canopy when pressed, and open the canopy when "un-pressed". I haven't seen these before. This is what I'm trying but it doesn't seem to work. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

 

{pressed = device_commands.Button_2, released = device_commands.Button_2, cockpit_device_id  = devices.CPT_MECH, value_pressed = 1.0, value_released = -1.0, name = _('Canopy Closing else Opening'), category = _('Systems')},

 

 

[LeCuvier]

@epolta: you got creative there! I don't recall ever seeing the event "released".

I tried a few things, including replacement of "released" with "up" and using "device_commands.Button_1", but that didn't help.
When I increased "value_down" to 4.0 the command actually pushed the throttle to FULL and my fighter (on the runway) stood with its tail in the air. Really weird!

I also tried increasing the gain, no effect.

So after all kinds of messing around I had to give up. This command needs to be used with a pair of pushbuttons, or a 3-position ON1-OFF-ON2 switch. I use the Autopilot switch on my TM WH throttle.

Sorry I couldn't help you.

[epolta]

5 hours ago, LeCuvier said:

@epolta: you got creative there! I don't recall ever seeing the event "released".

I tried a few things, including replacement of "released" with "up" and using "device_commands.Button_1", but that didn't help.
When I increased "value_down" to 4.0 the command actually pushed the throttle to FULL and my fighter (on the runway) stood with its tail in the air. Really weird!

I also tried increasing the gain, no effect.

So after all kinds of messing around I had to give up. This command needs to be used with a pair of pushbuttons, or a 3-position ON1-OFF-ON2 switch. I use the Autopilot switch on my TM WH throttle.

Sorry I couldn't help you.

No problem.. Thanks for looking! I was definitely scratching my head on this one and like a good student, I wanted to show the teacher my work... LOL.. OK, swapping that switch back to an On/Off/On as I'm encountering many modules that seem to require that functionality for canopy controls.

[epolta]

Has anyone had any luck, or would it even be possible to add bindings in the A-10C2 for:

AAP Steerpoint Selector Knob CW & CCW

AAP CDU Selector Knob CW & CCW

CMS Mode Selector CW & CCW

I'd like to use rotary encoders to be able to switch between the respective modes, but don't see a binding or a way in clickable data to enable that functionality?

 

thanks!

[LeCuvier]

In "clickabledata.lua" these are all implemented with the "multiposition_switch_limited" object, and that does not support increment/decrement commands like CW/CCW. It works with absolute command values like 0.0, 0.1, 0.2... for positions 0, 1, 2...

Thus, works the same as the bindable commands in "default.lua" which take one pushbutton for each position. Designed for people with unlimited number of inputs. Ridiculous!

[epolta]

18 minutes ago, LeCuvier said:

In "clickabledata.lua" these are all implemented with the "multiposition_switch_limited" object, and that does not support increment/decrement commands like CW/CCW. It works with absolute command values like 0.0, 0.1, 0.2... for positions 0, 1, 2...

Thus, works the same as the bindable commands in "default.lua" which take one pushbutton for each position. Designed for people with unlimited number of inputs. Ridiculous!

I agree! When I built my button box I wanted to utilize the rotaries because they are more flexible - vs the rotary dials. I think I can get by by binding each rotary to AAP Steerpoint Selector Knob: Flight Plan/Mission vs CW/CCW etc.. I'll be missing a few bindings but can probably make it work.