The new EXPLOSIONS

[jacksos101]

So has anyone else noticed the new explosion in the beta? You can see it when you fire rockets into the ground, and I just wanted to say that it looks great. You can see dirt been thrown out from the impact point and it really is an improvement over the other explosions, in my opinion anyway :thumbup:

 

Hoping to see more such explosions when DCS: World is released properly :D

[cichlidfan]

Agreed, they do seem better. Accidentally flew the Mustang into the ground at around 300 and the fireball was better than I expected from A-10.;)

[jp203000]

It seems my complain paid off.

[Kenan]

Can someone make a short youtube video of these explosions for us who don't have the beta? Thanks.

[213]

you've never made a thread about better explosions. other people have. if anything, they are more responsible for this.

[159th_Viper]

Can someone make a short youtube video of these explosions for us who don't have the beta? Thanks.

 

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Edited May 3, 2012 by 159th_Viper

[DiCE81]

Are there big explosions?

[213]

yes, large bombs or explosion of munitions depot.

[TurboHog]

+ Fires look way more realistic

+ Burning vehicles smoke production and effects updated

 

I like it! Hope these positive developments continue :)

[cichlidfan]

One large boom.

[maturin]

The explosions look great, but they're too big for the shaped charge Vikhr. S-5 and S-8 rockets are pretty tiny too, as you can see on youtube.

[mmaruda]

I liked the previous ones better, now it's more Hollywood.

[elchacal]

I didn't have enough time to see them in detail, but big explosions look very good!

Edited May 3, 2012 by elchacal

[skouras]

I liked the previous ones better, now it's more Hollywood.

this is a joke...right:lol:

[Vekkinho]

How 'bout some secondaries?!

[Tailgate]

Once all the modules are plugged into DCSW like A-10, will they use the DCSW objects for explosions?

[Nate--IRL--]

Yes - but not for all weapons.

 

Nate

[Agg]

Is there till just one explosion effect? Would be nice to have a couple of different ones I think.

[jp203000]

:cry:

you've never made a thread about better explosions. other people have. if anything, they are more responsible for this.

[mwd2]

indeed, very nice explosions - but is it possible to keep the dark smoke clouds a longer time period over the area? (i know it will cost some performance but it would be more realistic....)

[cichlidfan]

indeed, very nice explosions - but is it possible to keep the dark smoke clouds a longer time period over the area? (i know it will cost some performance but it would be more realistic....)

 

That's one of those things that would be fantastic if it were on a slider, or otherwise adjustable, but I suspect that doing that would be complicated enough to not be worth the trouble just for those with systems that could handle it.

[Bushmanni]

The new explosion is cool and something I have been looking forward to but it's used wrong as it's perfect for big warhead exploding upon impacting ground but not that good for small missile or rocket hitting vehicle. Unfortunately Mk-84 still uses the old animation but Vikhr is using the new one while the old one would fit it better. Also the dust "prongs" might benefit from lighter and more brown color.

[Nate--IRL--]

you've never made a thread about better explosions. other people have. if anything, they are more responsible for this.

 

None of you are "responsible" for this - WW2 videos of P-51 rocket attacks were - get off your high horse.

 

Nate

[213]

The new explosion is cool and something I have been looking forward to but it's used wrong as it's perfect for big warhead exploding upon impacting ground but not that good for small missile or rocket hitting vehicle. Unfortunately Mk-84 still uses the old animation but Vikhr is using the new one while the old one would fit it better. Also the dust "prongs" might benefit from lighter and more brown color.

 

jdam explosion:

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/GBU-38_munition_explosions_in_Iraq.jpg

 

things i notice:

 

sharp v shaped ejections. the current prong effects do not do justice to the velocity and violence of this ejection. this can only be done with a sprite featuring fine grains on an alpha transparent background.

 

i think combined with the current effect, with the dark color changed to brown, it would work fairly well.

 

i honestly think ed underestimates animated sprites. for efficient, non resource intensive dust kickup effects, sprites are still unparalleled. this is because they happen fast enough that the illusion of dimension and volume isn't broken. also, they can be as detailed as the artist cna make them. they can have complex shapes and multiple colors because it's basically an animated texture, something particles require lots of power to do.

 

some sprite kick up effect from other games as inspiration:

 

http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/121/1217397/WoT_2_1327696888.jpg

 

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2010/11/Red-Orchestra-2-sandbag-bunker.jpg

 

what happens is you combine sprite and particle effects to simulate the appearance of dust, dirt, debris moving at different velocity, trajectories and scale.

[Trident]

My two cents on the new explosions:

 

Very promising, but not quite finished yet.

 

IMHO, the following changes would improve them substantially:

 

1. As others have said, it's currently a one-size-fits-all thing which doesn't really work very well if simply scaled for warheads of different explosive power. I strongly suspect this is a beta issue though, but I'll mention it just to be sure ;)

 

2. A stylistic gripe: the incandescent fireball should in my view be brighter and more luminous with reddish areas, a bit like it used to be with the previous explosions actually.

 

3. The shock wave is still overdone, it should only be visible as a brief flash and never grow as large as it does because in real life its own expansion in space dilutes its strength rather quickly. In fact, the shock wave effect has probably not been changed at all, so hopefully this is another non-issue which will soon be taken care of anyway.

 

4. My biggest beef apart from the fireball: the dust prong animation (as Bushmanni has so aptly called it) is not physically convincing in my opinion. Initially the prongs move in a straight line which is perfectly sensible for fine particulate matter that is not significantly affected by gravity. However, they then proceed to fall to the ground quite quickly while dissipating and that looks weird because it doesn't make sense for fine dust. My recommendation would be to EITHER have the dust prongs simply dissipate without settling to the ground at all OR make them follow a visibly curved trajectory from the outset (as would happen if the material was dense enough to be subject to a noticeable gravitational pull).

 

5. Some small sparks (like those in the Black Shark 1.0 cannon impact or ammo cook off effect), following nice parabolic arcs would be welcome :)

Edited May 4, 2012 by Trident