Drakkhen Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Hi, I noticed, since Flaming Cliffs have been installed, an irregular rotation of the camera (probability 80% left, 20% down-left). The rotation is continuous when started. After many flights and many flight-tests, I at last understood it was linked with the stall-speed/AOA of the aircraft. Don't know why, but whatever plane I fly 25T or MiG, when the aircraft slows two much and AOA climbs, the camera suddenly rotates [down]left. I thought the keyboard/collie-hat controls were to blame but even when removing them in view controls, the problem keeps occuring. Ah... another point: when camera commonly moves/rotates, could it be possible to make its linear and angular speeds fps dependant only and not time-factor dependant? Thanx... Even though, this sim kicks! "Heroism is the only way to get famous when you got no talent" Pierre Desproges "Whether fifty millions people say a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkhen Posted September 12, 2005 Author Share Posted September 12, 2005 No one ever experienced such a problem? I can't figure out how to resolve this without keybord/buttons settings making any difference. "Heroism is the only way to get famous when you got no talent" Pierre Desproges "Whether fifty millions people say a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Need a track with this problem, track must be short and simple. With Best Regards! Daniel Tuseyev Il-2: Battle of Stalingrad and Rise Of Flight projects manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkhen Posted September 13, 2005 Author Share Posted September 13, 2005 You'll find the track files here (v1.1 tracks, 161Ko). For these three flights, I didn't use keyboard for any view command, only lights, brakes, flaps and gears controls. View rotations for 2 and 3 occurs while no key/button is pressed. View rotation 1 occurs while holding shift to deploy flaps (shift-F). 1- View changes while making the slow right turn to join approach path entrance (when bearing arrives on 345). 2- View changes when plane stops after fake emergency landing (~60kts). 3- View changes at the very same time the plane enters the taxiway. It sometime occurs in a middle of a dogfight, often when between short beacon and runway or on final descent to Kuzy (when it's most dangerous). But it only happens on external and internal (F1, F2), never in free cam, pursuit or locked ones (to target, and fly-by) where camera sight repeatedly refreshes. "Heroism is the only way to get famous when you got no talent" Pierre Desproges "Whether fifty millions people say a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkhen Posted September 15, 2005 Author Share Posted September 15, 2005 So, is there a keyboard or joy event, which could cause this, in the file? "Heroism is the only way to get famous when you got no talent" Pierre Desproges "Whether fifty millions people say a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Hi, I noticed, since Flaming Cliffs have been installed, an irregular rotation of the camera (probability 80% left, 20% down-left). The rotation is continuous when started. After many flights and many flight-tests, I at last understood it was linked with the stall-speed/AOA of the aircraft. Don't know why, but whatever plane I fly 25T or MiG, when the aircraft slows two much and AOA climbs, the camera suddenly rotates [down]left. I thought the keyboard/collie-hat controls were to blame but even when removing them in view controls, the problem keeps occuring. Ah... another point: when camera commonly moves/rotates, could it be possible to make its linear and angular speeds fps dependant only and not time-factor dependant? Thanx... Even though, this sim kicks! Are New View utility installed on your PC? Are you have TrackIR, Cam2Pan? Have you engaged the cockpit mouse view control? With Best Regards! Daniel Tuseyev Il-2: Battle of Stalingrad and Rise Of Flight projects manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkhen Posted September 15, 2005 Author Share Posted September 15, 2005 Are New View utility installed on your PC?No. Simple 1.0 upgraded to 1.1, nothing else.Are you have TrackIR, Cam2Pan?No. Common keyboard numpad control.Have you engaged the cockpit mouse view control?No. Didn't even tried it once. "Heroism is the only way to get famous when you got no talent" Pierre Desproges "Whether fifty millions people say a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazehound Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Have you tested to see if it happens when your joysyick is unplugged? VVS504 Red Hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkhen Posted September 16, 2005 Author Share Posted September 16, 2005 Ok, I just tried and after four flights, the problem didn't occur. But since the joy and its configuration didn't change between 1.02 and 1.1, and since there was no problem at all with 1.0 and 1.02, I don't see how I could correct this right now. As I said, I have no view control set on the joy, I only use keyboard for this. Could be just an hint for devs. Ah... I noticed that SWFFB throttle is not a stable input (value constantly varies) maybe is there some disturbance with this or another input. Edit: Even with joy connected and configured, if we don't touch it in-game, the problem doesn't occur. Seems linked to variation of some sort of the inputs. "Heroism is the only way to get famous when you got no talent" Pierre Desproges "Whether fifty millions people say a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazehound Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Joystick then :( I have heard of this problem before but I dont know what what done to resolve it. VVS504 Red Hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkhen Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 Okay. Tested the stick with other games and on another machine (with 1.02 only, the guy doesn't have the real stuff) and the stick works just fine. The only problem seems to be with 1.1. :( "Heroism is the only way to get famous when you got no talent" Pierre Desproges "Whether fifty millions people say a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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