ED Team NineLine Posted May 23, 2012 ED Team Share Posted May 23, 2012 EDGE is the rendering engine Nevada is built upon, it allows the use of several DX11 (I think) features to improve the rendering performance. To take advantage of these features the terrain is built with to a design that uses things like clipmaps etc. In order for the Black Sea terrain to utilise these features it would have to be completely built again from scratch - this is not going to happen any time soon, if at all. I'll say never. Nate Fair enough, I get that, I just will be interested to see how both worlds live together in one little package, or if the Black Sea map will eventually become unusable... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I thought EDGE was a replacement for the current Graphics Engine, so either the game will use 2 different graphics engines depending on content loaded or I really dont understand what EDGE is lol... It is also possible that EDGE will be backwards compatible, but that the old content will just not utilize the new features. All just speculation, though. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 23, 2012 ED Team Share Posted May 23, 2012 It is also possible that EDGE will be backwards compatible, but that the old content will just not utilize the new features. All just speculation, though. That would make more sense to me, but if the map would have to be restarted from scratch to utilize EDGE then it seems that that wouldnt be the case. Otherwise you would think the map could just be updated (and by saying "just be updated" I in no means am downplaying the amount of possible work that "just be updated" could take so dont bite my head off :) ) But then I am trying to assemble a puzzle with 50% of the pieces missing :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemises Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 presumably the original map spec is a sub-set of EDGE....or rather EDGE is an evolution of the original map spec. ...think of it like how your fav FPS game can render using DX9 or DX11.... or in another way, think of every "feature" that the original map supported that needs a data structure to support it also exists in EDGE, but there is also new additional data available that can be used by a more modern renderer to generate better visuals. You can infer from this that Nevada could be available to be drawn "old style" I'd say. of course, they could just have 2 completely non co-incidental engines...but I doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 No - AFAIK the black sea region would have to be started from scratch in EDGE as the current terrain is not compatible - and no it is not just a question of importing 3d models, lots more goes on under the hood besides that. Nate would it possible for someone on the ED team to give us a glimpse into what is involved in generating the maps? I think it would be interesting and it might give people a better understanding why these things take some time. Gadgets [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) Nate would it possible for someone on the ED team to give us a glimpse into what is involved in generating the maps? I think it would be interesting and it might give people a better understanding why these things take some time. Gadgets http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/All_about_land Read at your own risk, it will give you a headache. ;) Edited May 24, 2012 by Blaze i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedaway Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/All_about_land Read at your own risk, it will give you a headache. ;) Is that always valid with the new engine? DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Nate would it possible for someone on the ED team to give us a glimpse into what is involved in generating the maps? I think it would be interesting and it might give people a better understanding why these things take some time. Gadgets Luckybob is the guy to ask, he was heavily involved with Nevada. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Ground clutter looks good, more interested in the terrain mesh at this point :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazz_BMF Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Just wanted to remind everybody how awsome Nevada looked even before EDGE. I just can´t wait any longer :cry: :pilotfly:Wolfpack Production:pilotfly: -=<[WiN 10, I7 3770K @ 4,5 Ghz, Corsair H100i, Sabertooth Z77, 16 GB Dominator, Sapphire 7970 VaporX 6GB, C70 Vengance, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro rudder, Track IR, Beyerdynamics MMX 300 ]>=- DCS/FC2/FC3/Arma videos on my channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WolfpackproductionDK "Fortes Furtuna Juvat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemises Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 nice vid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Seahawk Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Shouldn't the map be released in June? I think I read that somewhere months ago?! Edited June 5, 2012 by Lt.Seahawk DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Patience. Yes it's been in development for a while, yes there have been some halts on progress for a little bit, but development is back on track and as things progress you'll know with the official updates by Wags. Just wanted to remind everybody how awsome Nevada looked even before EDGE. I just can´t wait any longer :cry: IF you happen to have a copy of the ancient, prehistoric A-10C beta 1 or 2 (almost nobody does anymore), that beta Nevada terrain . It's incomplete yes, but it's something to buzz around in while you wait for the EDGE version. :) Edited June 5, 2012 by Blaze i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBS_Nero Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 :thumbup: Nice vid Bravoooo [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS SQ° Italia Virtual Black Sheep VBS Fan Page Facebook You Tube Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltensegler Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 wowowow... you hear that? :) ...anyone? I just cleaned up all my old backups unfortunately but someone here must still have it...any chance we could make a temporarily mod out of it...if it does work? 4790K@4,6Ghz | EVGA Z97 Classified | 32GB @ 2400Mhz | Titan X hydro copper| SSD 850 PRO ____________________________________ Moments in DCS: --> https://www.youtube.com/user/weltensegLA --> WELD's cockpit: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=92274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonialkon Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Amazing Video! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 wowowow... you hear that? :) ...anyone? I just cleaned up all my old backups unfortunately but someone here must still have it...any chance we could make a temporarily mod out of it...if it does work? No, because the only way to get it was to pre-order A-10C, you can't distribute it as a free mod. i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubPilot Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Cool video! So if you were in on the A-10C preorder and have the Beta2 update how do you get the Nevada terrain to work with DCS World? :pilotfly: Edited June 5, 2012 by CubPilot [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 Pro 64 | Asus Rampage III Extreme |Swiftech H2O cooled: CPU, Video, N. Bridge | i7 980X EE @4.5GHz | 16 GB DDR3 @1726 MHZ | AMD R9 290X 4GB DDR5 +EK H2O block+Backplate | BenQ XL2730Z 2560x1440 @144Hz | Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB | 2 - Samsung HD 1TB | Pinoeer BD-RW | ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Audio | CoolerMaster Haf-X case | PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760W PS | HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain Mod | HOTAS Warthog | TM RCS Rudders + Mods | TM MFD's w/monitors | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyTheLung Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I'm not in front of the PC right now, so bear with me... Look in the main directory of your BETA 2 install for a folder called "theaters of war" There should be a subfolder inside called "Nevada" A simple copy paste job of the nevada folder into the theaters of war folder in whatever version you're running and should do it. ...remember, to load up Nevada you have to open the mission editor and create a new mission. That's when you get the option to chose your theater. Works wonderfully in DCS world atm 2 System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubPilot Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 That seems easy enough, but having to use the mission editor would be something I would not have thought of, been quite awhile since I used Beta2. I will give it a try after I get DCS World d'loaded & installed, only three more D'loads to go :doh:. Thanks for the info. :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 Pro 64 | Asus Rampage III Extreme |Swiftech H2O cooled: CPU, Video, N. Bridge | i7 980X EE @4.5GHz | 16 GB DDR3 @1726 MHZ | AMD R9 290X 4GB DDR5 +EK H2O block+Backplate | BenQ XL2730Z 2560x1440 @144Hz | Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB | 2 - Samsung HD 1TB | Pinoeer BD-RW | ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Audio | CoolerMaster Haf-X case | PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760W PS | HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain Mod | HOTAS Warthog | TM RCS Rudders + Mods | TM MFD's w/monitors | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 looking forward to the nevada map https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptre Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I can't wait to roll through Las Vegas in my T-80 and then hop in a Ka-50 and go for a spin 'round the desert:P RTX 2070 8GB | 32GB DDR4 2666 RAM | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 4.2Ghz | Asrock X570 | CH Fighterstick/Pro Throttle | TM MFDs | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eihort Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Can't wait to tool around Desert East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Works wonderfully in DCS world atm Yep!;) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltensegler Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) I know that what I am talking about! I was preorder/beta tester but I just killed all my old backups...maybe someone hasn't. ..oh I hear you it would not be legal to let people have it that were not in the beta. Edited June 6, 2012 by Weltensegler 4790K@4,6Ghz | EVGA Z97 Classified | 32GB @ 2400Mhz | Titan X hydro copper| SSD 850 PRO ____________________________________ Moments in DCS: --> https://www.youtube.com/user/weltensegLA --> WELD's cockpit: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=92274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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