sunwolf Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 SARH missiles like AIM-7 and R-27 should launch one by one.If the 1st missile don't reach target,you may not fire the 2nd missile. but AIM-120 or AIM-9 and R-73 can be launched many at same time. The earth is a globe,so the land and sea surface is a globe-surface.when I fly above the sea 30 feet in game,I can receive the ship-radar that far from me 150km. Suggest:Think for frame-rate in game,designers may build a pre-globe-surface by the altitudes and distance of radar/target. To unlock the enemy aircraft's radar,I often use "beam radar".in game the angle is 90 degree,but in fact it is a area,for excample 80-100 degree.so the "beam radar" will more easy and clever. sorry for my english. == Welcome to 3GO Cyber Air Force == http://bbs.3gofly.com/en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
355th_Paulie Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Sunwolf, your english is far better than my or many other users on this forums Chinees, so dont excuse yourself mate!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenan Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Yeah, it's really unrealistic to have a EWR station with the a range of say 150km to still be able to feed you with the precise position of enemy aircrafts way outside the above mentioned range. And as for the radar issues u mentioned in your posts..one of many bugs that should be fixed. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Scythe Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 SARH missiles like AIM-7 and R-27 should launch one by one.If the 1st missile don't reach target,you may not fire the 2nd missile. Standard Soviet practice during the Cold War is to fire two missiles, preferably an SARH and an IR, at the target. So I don't get why the player 'may' not fire a 2nd missile. Jets with active radar missiles don't engage multiple targets, instead using their weapons like SARH missiles. Doesn't look like this is gonna get fixed. Maybe they don't want a single F-15 or MiG-29 laying waste to 6 MiG-31s/Su-27s. Radar issues are largely known. Currently, things like AWACs and GCI radars are all-seeing eyes. Doesn't look like it's gonna get fixed either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Ripling missiles even of the same type is a real world tactic. It would be stupid to die because the attack computer refused to fire a second missile that could do the job if the first didnt, and let the enemy fire in the mean time. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunwolf Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 I am afraid that the fire control computer would lost the 1st R-27R when you launch the 2nd R-27R soon.SARH isn't such easy by only lock at target. == Welcome to 3GO Cyber Air Force == http://bbs.3gofly.com/en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra360 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 But it should be. In Janes F/A-18 you can launch as many AIM-7s as you want against the same target. All the radar does is act as a gaint torch. As long as the torch shines at the target the SARH can see where they are going. The R-27 and AIM-7 don't recieve mid-course updates for the launch aircrafts radar like the AIM-120 does. It has nothing to do with the fire control computer, as all it has to do is keep the target locked until impact. And it was a practice tought in the Russian airforce to fire off two missiles at a time. The MiG-25 for example would be armed with 4 R-40 missiles. This ment it could effectively deal with engaging two targets per mission. The IR R-40 would be fired first followed by the SARH R-40. They were fired in this order to reduce the chance of the IR R-40 locking on to the SARH R-40's exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunwolf Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 But so all SARH missiles are like the FLOOD mode of AIM-7? After the launched R-40T catch its target with IR seeker,you may fire R-40R. == Welcome to 3GO Cyber Air Force == http://bbs.3gofly.com/en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beterhans Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 i just wonder. that's going on with the 3GO's web site and forum severs... i cant reach it for many days... http://aerodancer.vicp.net/ ------------------------------------- :icon_roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
169th_DedCat Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 But so all SARH missiles are like the FLOOD mode of AIM-7? After the launched R-40T catch its target with IR seeker,you may fire R-40R. Flood mode is a little different. In Flood mode there is no STT, all the launching aircraft's radar energy is simply directed straight forward, and whatever has the tastiest radar reflection within that forward field of view is what the missile will chase after. All SARH missiles compute their own intercept--it would be a lot more difficult for the aircraft to do all the work as it would have to know precisely where the target and the missile is in relation to itself the whole time the missile is in the air. SARH missiles actually only rely on the aircraft's transmitting radar to light up the target and then use those reflections to compute their own intercept. The aircraft doesn't have to do anything other than keep the target illuminated for the missile to find. SARH = Semi-Active Radar Homing, meaning there is a radar dish in the missile seeker cone actively receiving radar reflections, it simply lacks its own radar transmitter. Some modern SARH missiles apparently do use command guidance in the initial stage of a long flight, but they all do their own work for the intercept. Even in this case, I think it would be a simple matter to have more than one in flight at the same time. Play Hard - Play Fair Squadron Leader "DedCat" 169th Panthers - http://www.169thpanthers.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 The difference here is that we have two SARH missiles being fired at the same target; there are still limitations insofar as firing channels are concerned - it may not be possible to realistically datalink too many missiles, and the old Su-27 radar suffered from a lack or processing power - but that more of a problem in SNP then datalinking a pair of missiles IMHO. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunwolf Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 i just wonder. that's going on with the 3GO's web site and forum severs... i cant reach it for many days... hello beterhans. I think our 3GO web site will ready again soon. == Welcome to 3GO Cyber Air Force == http://bbs.3gofly.com/en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beterhans Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 hope it will.. by the way... could you told me the new 3go teamspeaker's server address for these day here? without it and the forum..i can't contect you guys. http://aerodancer.vicp.net/ ------------------------------------- :icon_roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunwolf Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 teamspeaker 221.239.57.74 or 218.69.56.75 and other forum --http://combatsim.bbs.net/ my teamspeaker is already uninstalled. == Welcome to 3GO Cyber Air Force == http://bbs.3gofly.com/en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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