wasserfall Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Thank You for your kind offers Folks, but im unsure, so i ask moderators: is it permitted to post a PayPal Donation link here or write it to my signature place ? You are our Russian hero! (well,... Hungarian that is) I like to donate too! btw any chance to make the panel lines more subtile? Would be nice to have it for Christmas:) Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The panel lines being dark is because of the skin. That layer needs to be tweaked. We have gotten spoilt by the specular mapping in newer models. Hungarojet, I can help edit some skins if u need an extra hand. :) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasserfall Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The panel lines being dark is because of the skin. That layer needs to be tweaked. We have gotten spoilt by the specular mapping in newer models. Hungarojet, I can help edit some skins if u need an extra hand. :) Can you explain the difference of the older mapping and specular mapping? I am a noob on this. Thanks Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 In the older method...well even the current method...lines and rivets are painted on the skin. When this is done with a second line/rivet displaced/offset by a pixel or so, it gives the illusion of a 3d rivet/line. Now in DCS world with A-10C/A and F-15, ED introduced specular mapping which allows you you give a better depth to the line by defining it in an alpha channel or something. Even now you would still paint it on the skin, but a bit lighter shade and the 3d effect would be obtained by the specular map. Bottom line, you can make new skins with lighter lines/rivets and that should address the issue. WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungaroJET Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 ...for relaxation i did some WIP correction on the new Hornet model: lowered arrester hook angle, catapult launch bar, MIL/AB & idle-nozzle animations, formation lights day/night, anti-collision beacon lights, full span leading edge flaps, aileron/trailing edge flaps, rudder-brakes/flaps... Atop the midnight tarmac, a metal beast awaits. To be flown below the radar, to bring the enemy his fate. HAVE A BANDIT DAY ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JABO2009 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 awesome, keep it coming Intel I7 - 10700 K @ 3,80GHz / 64 GB DDR3 / RTX 3090 / Win 10 Home 64 bit / Logitech X56 HOTAS / HP Reverb G2 Running DCS on latest OB version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungaroJET Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Atop the midnight tarmac, a metal beast awaits. To be flown below the radar, to bring the enemy his fate. HAVE A BANDIT DAY ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markindel Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 HungaroJet you are great!! We will never fly too on your F18? Really compliments for your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungaroJET Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 HungaroJet you are great!! We will never fly too on your F18? Really compliments for your work. I am sure Timur will update soon his F-18C model. (LOD models missing too) Hopefully it will come up with FC3 final version or with DCS:Hornet. Thomas and Mario, Thank You for the donations ! I wont forget the Tornado also BTW, i just discovered: i screwed up the LEX lights on the Hornet...corrected (some images of the F-18C more) ...but now i am back to the Flanker Atop the midnight tarmac, a metal beast awaits. To be flown below the radar, to bring the enemy his fate. HAVE A BANDIT DAY ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Great job HungaroJET No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 If I remember correctly the Hornet's engine nozzles aren't open when at idle. Nice shots though! :) i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungaroJET Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) If I remember correctly the Hornet's engine nozzles aren't open when at idle. Nice shots though! :) Blaze, all modern engines do this idle-nozzle movements...SuperHornet also, i think F-22 too http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/f-18-usa/p12229-fa-18-hornetus-air-force.html http://www.airliners.net/photo/Spain---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-EF-18A/0574481/L/ http://www.airliners.net/photo/Finland---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-F-18C/1566668/L/ http://www.airliners.net/photo/Switzerland---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-F-A-18C/1575692/L/ http://www.airliners.net/photo/Switzerland---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-F-A-18C/1596789/L/ :)...to my sponsors: Edin ! Thank You Very Much :thumbup: Edited November 19, 2012 by HungaroJET Atop the midnight tarmac, a metal beast awaits. To be flown below the radar, to bring the enemy his fate. HAVE A BANDIT DAY ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I thought for the Hornet they went to full open when the engine was OFF, then moved to close when they reached idle. i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasserfall Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 In the older method...well even the current method...lines and rivets are painted on the skin. When this is done with a second line/rivet displaced/offset by a pixel or so, it gives the illusion of a 3d rivet/line. Now in DCS world with A-10C/A and F-15, ED introduced specular mapping which allows you you give a better depth to the line by defining it in an alpha channel or something. Even now you would still paint it on the skin, but a bit lighter shade and the 3d effect would be obtained by the specular map. Bottom line, you can make new skins with lighter lines/rivets and that should address the issue. Thank you for explaining it to me! Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungaroJET Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) I thought for the Hornet they went to full open when the engine was OFF, then moved to close when they reached idle. Blaze, if the engines are OFF then nozzles fully closed. Fully opened @ idle. Fully closed again @ MIL, and ~ fully opened (depends of thrust) with AB. Engines OFF: http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Navy/Boeing-F-A-18F-Super/2174419/L/&sid=e86c55b8cd611cb2c3c39642af6503f1 http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Navy/Boeing-F-A-18F-Super/2173068/L/&sid=e86c55b8cd611cb2c3c39642af6503f1 http://www.airliners.net/photo/Canada---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-CF-188A/2171245/L/&sid=e86c55b8cd611cb2c3c39642af6503f1 ~ Idle Engines: http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Marines/McDonnell-Douglas-F-A-18C/2186844/L/&sid=e86c55b8cd611cb2c3c39642af6503f1 http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Navy/Boeing-F-A-18E-Super/2178432/L/&sid=e86c55b8cd611cb2c3c39642af6503f1 ...Kirill, I say Thank to You too. Thank You for your confidence Folks. Edited November 19, 2012 by HungaroJET Atop the midnight tarmac, a metal beast awaits. To be flown below the radar, to bring the enemy his fate. HAVE A BANDIT DAY ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) Let me explain. When the engine is shut down, the exhaust vanes close, reducing drag. When the engine is at ground idle the exhaust vanes are open, closing when the throttle is advanced significantly. When the engine is in flight idle the exhaust vanes are constricted. In afterburner, the vanes are opened. ...to my sponsors: Edin ! Thank You Very Much :thumbup: Why do you take donations... do you release your work? Is it in the user downloads section? Edited November 19, 2012 by aaron886 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungaroJET Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) Why do you take donations... do you release your work? Is it in the user downloads section? I will...few more weeks (probably two weeks more ;) ) seriously: in early December ...They have given me pre-confidence...they trust in me Edited November 19, 2012 by HungaroJET Atop the midnight tarmac, a metal beast awaits. To be flown below the radar, to bring the enemy his fate. HAVE A BANDIT DAY ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker1 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) VVS training day at Senaki AB. Edited November 19, 2012 by flanker1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sov13t Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 ...Kirill, I say Thank to You too. Thank You for your confidence Folks. You are welcome, your works might just save this sim for a lot of pilots that would rather keep flying SU-27/MiG-29 than what we are given stock with the simulator [can't really call them models by todays standards]. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 51st PVO Regiment | Forum | Statistics DCS: MiG-21Bis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) VVS training day at Senaki AB. Hi flanker1, looking at your screenshots of Senaki you have swapped the aircraft hangar models from the ones at Vaziani airbase? (air_closedguardhouse_03a.edm) Edited November 19, 2012 by Mustang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker1 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) hi mustang! exactly, i removed the stock ones (because the the "new" vaziani ones are larger, so swapping only will not help), copied the ones from vaziani, renamed them into a model of your choice from the ME (maybe the block onroad, it s up to you) and placed them at Senaki or where ever you want. :-) Edited November 19, 2012 by flanker1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swe_badger Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 That Su-27 looks absolutely gorgeous HungaroJET! One of my favourite planes since Flanker 2.0 of course. Looking forward to it. AMD FX-6300 8GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE LP DDR3 RAM SAPPHIRE HD 7790 DUAL-X O/C 1GB DDR5 2TB SEAGATE HDD WIN7 ULTIMATE X64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrayen Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Do you mean reflection or glossy paint when you write "flashy" ? and too much ? i think too weak ! (i see reflection visible only from a narrow and low angle) He posted many examples of reflection: My bad, didn't do my homework.:D Thanks for pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 HungaroJET, I tried donating my whole sister through paypal but it didn't fit. Really nice work on what a lot of us thought should have come stock in FC3. I definitely have to buy FC3 now. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I will...few more weeks (probably two weeks more ;) ) seriously: in early December ...They have given me pre-confidence...they trust in me Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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