Viewing radios without TrackIR

[kylania]

Here's the steps to view the radio panel that's hidden under the throttles if you don't have TrackIR:

 

[Frederf]

In Black Shark you could slew the viewpoint around simply by pressing mousewheel button and moving the mouse around. The longitudinal motion would need another control but you could do that with another modifier key.

 

Good to see it in keyboard shortcut form though!

[epoch]

Thanks for your post! I often struggle viewing the radios when using TrackIR.

 

Is it possible to save views, and then shortcut to them? Alternatively, I guess I could try a G15 keyboard macro.

[hreich]

Pheeew...kylania....isnt there already a preprogramed views on radio panel?

Or, are there detailed instructions how to save a view to use it latter by only one key press?

[dnme]

I find TrackIR very awkward with these skewed views. I scrunch down and left etc, my head held in an awkward position as I have to strain my eyes forward to see the screen, then I look down at the keyboard or mouse and by the time I look back up at the screen, the view I had is gone.

[bfeld]

dnme, I modified the TrackIR profile to cope with this. You can adjust the curves so that certain view directions are amplified more than others. This way, I don't have to break my neck for the most important views. For example: My movement is amplified alot when looking up- and sideways. I don't need the precision to read instruments, but can comfortably look around when flying steep curves or having a look over the shoulder when passing important points/objects on the ground.

Edited November 26, 2010 by bfeld

[dnme]

dnme, I modified the TrackIR profile to cope with this. You can adjust the curves so that certain view directions are amplified more than others. This way, I don't have to break my neck for the most important views. For example: My movement is amplified alot when looking up- and sideways. I don't need the precision to read instruments, but can comfortably look around when flying steep curves or having a look over the shoulder when passing important points/objects on the ground.

 

Hi bfeld

Any chance you could upload that profile?

[bfeld]

Unfortunatelly, I'm at work now and will be directly visiting a friend for the weekend. So probably at the beginning of next week.

[dnme]

Many thanks

[sofie_59]

I use slide left and look down zoom whit track ir and hit pause( on track ir) And that works ok

[Miro]

Me using radios from memory, only pov left and i remember what, where, how much times to press :smartass: 10 mins on this and all of You remember:smartass:

 

EDIT: Example: Vaziani 140.00 - RMB first from left button to You hear click, and LMB 4 times and You on 140.00

 

EDIT 2: Two remaining radio panels are good visible

Edited November 26, 2010 by Miro

[kylania]

Pheeew...kylania....isnt there already a preprogramed views on radio panel?

Or, are there detailed instructions how to save a view to use it latter by only one key press?

 

None of the default Snapviews are pointed at the radio. There's one for the CDU, but it's slightly off. I'm not sure how to save these views though. I seem to remember reading that saving them doesn't work currently, so haven't really tried to.

 

As for it being difficult to "look down" with TrackIR, I've found that if you center the TrackIR view with your head slightly elevated and facing up that it's easier to look down and back. I'm pretty sure that this is simply due to where I have my IR camera and ProClip situated though.

[Miro]

I think to real Combat Pilot set radio from memory too, and only look to check is it set properly.

[bfeld]

Hi bfeld

Any chance you could upload that profile?

 

Hi dnme, as promised, here is my profile. It works quite good for me. Movement is accelerated with increasing angle but slowed down when reaching important positions (like looking down around 80-90 degrees in game). Nevertheless, it's really dependent of your setup, so here is how I use it:

TrackIR 4 with TrackIR 5 software. My TrackIR is located on my 22" monitor, approximately at eyes height. In normal position I'm sitting about 60cm away from my display.

 

Cheers, bfeld

profile.zip

[dnme]

Hi dnme, as promised, here is my profile. It works quite good for me. Movement is accelerated with increasing angle but slowed down when reaching important positions (like looking down around 80-90 degrees in game). Nevertheless, it's really dependent of your setup, so here is how I use it:

TrackIR 4 with TrackIR 5 software. My TrackIR is located on my 22" monitor, approximately at eyes height. In normal position I'm sitting about 60cm away from my display.

 

Cheers, bfeld

 

sincere thanks bfeld

[Invisibull]

None of the default Snapviews are pointed at the radio. There's one for the CDU, but it's slightly off. I'm not sure how to save these views though. I seem to remember reading that saving them doesn't work currently, so haven't really tried to.

 

Here's a method I've discovered to get the #2 keypad snapview to look at the entire CDU, compliments of the poster Crash_Fistfight.

 

And I quote:

 

"Ok heres how to change the view angles for the snapviews. Bear in mind that this being a Beta Wags has already stated that modding files is a no no.

 

1) Back up "DCS A-10C Beta\Config\View" folder.

 

2) Open DCS A-10C Beta\Config\View\View.lua with notepad++ and set "UseDefaultSnapViews" on line 50 to false, save and exit.

 

3) Open DCS A-10C Beta\Config\View\Snapviews.lua with notepad++. The A10C has the plane index 11 and the snapview index is the KP_No.+1 so 3 in the case of the CDU. I changed the value of line 970 from 19.something to 29.something which gives a fairly good view of the screen and keyboard."

 

This method works perfectly, and I suspect the same can be done for a good view of the radios, which I too, even with the benefit of Trackir 5, have trouble viewing clearly. Please take Crash's advice and BACKUP the file you are editing, and be sure to use notepad++ (free download) for changing any values.

 

Thanks again Crash for this very useful edit.

 

Kylania: I think you're correct in that eventually we'll be able to customize our views without the necessity of a manual edit.

[boredtechie]

Hi,

 

You guys may find this useful too http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=62820.

 

bt

[Invisibull]

Good stuff, bt. Thanks.