any one got the new thrustmaster A10. HOTAS

[hassata]

Integrating the Warthog in my pit (at least the stick for the moment).

 

 

HI:

 

Can you give a brief description of how you mounted teh stick and indicate whether the ofset to the left is working well?

 

Thanks

[BaD CrC]

Hello Hassata,

 

Well, simple. Unscrew the 4 screws at the bottom of the original plate, cut your own metal plate (used a 1mm thick steel plate) with the right dimensions, drill 4 holes for the stick base + as many holes to mount the plate in your pit. Put everything back together.

I don't understand your question about the offset. What offset?

[JaseGill]

Flim,

Loving the simplicity of that Pit.

Any build log at all? Looks like just what I (and the fun monitor) want :)

Cheers,

J.

[Teej]

Hello Hassata,

 

Well, simple. Unscrew the 4 screws at the bottom of the original plate, cut your own metal plate (used a 1mm thick steel plate) with the right dimensions, drill 4 holes for the stick base + as many holes to mount the plate in your pit. Put everything back together.

I don't understand your question about the offset. What offset?

 

A fair number of people are interested in center sticks, but twisting the grip relative to the base for a more ergonomic layout, like the real thing is.

 

See, you can mount the stick centered, and "squared" to the pit such that straight fore/aft/left/right motion gives pure y/x motion, but your wrist is twisted at some funny angles to make that happen. This isn't entirely uncomfortable, and this is how Ray and I flew the demo at the release event. It's just a bit unergonomic.

 

Or you could mount the stick base twisted counterclockwise about 15 degrees to match the real A-10's grip angle (such that the stick's forward/backward axis is on about the "11:30 - 5:30" line instead of 12-6. But then you've got to give awkward muscle movements - right roll without a pitch change requires you to push right and forward, for example. This also isn't unreasonable given the Warthog's lack of "axis detents"...but requires muscle memory rather than logic/physics to determine what is a "pure" roll input.

 

Now, after some talk on all of the above on simHQ after E3, I submitted the request for what became the 'rotatedxaxis()' command which would allow you to mount the stick rotated while adjusting the response in software so that you move the (twisted) stick in pure cardinal directions for pure pitch/roll inputs (pitch would now be along 12:30-6:30 from the stick's poitn of view). There's 2 problems with that approach...first, at the time (I hadn't had my hands on a Warthog all that long at that point and I honestly hadn't looked at the "stick limit" piece to see that it was a rounded off square (which, if you twist the stick and use rotatedxaxis(), results in some differential in the amount of throw you get. I was focused on preparing some flight profiles we had discussed and didn't require spending a lot of time pushed against the stops. I thought it was...rounder...and therefore twisting the response wouldn't cause any effective loss of resolution. The other problem is that applying that fix wouldn't work in A-10 at this point unless you rewrote your own profile (unless I'm mistaken - I haven't had the time available to me yet to get in on the A-10 beta. I'm absolutely going to be picking it up when I get some more time.)

 

Anyhoo, what he was asking was if you have the stick mounted offset (twisted) and how you like it, how you did it, etc.

[Succellus]

I ordered mine from simware but they are sold out and will first restock in 4 weeks time GRRRRRRRR. Thought about asking them to cancel my order so i could buy it from sweden but might aswell just wait it out.

 

By the time it shows ill have all my exams done.

 

 

French simware ? 4 weeks ? from what source did you got that number ?

I ordered from them too and they say ASAP as not knowing when, but soon.

[Pilotasso]

French simware ? 4 weeks ? from what source did you got that number ?

I ordered from them too and they say ASAP as not knowing when, but soon.

 

Same here, out of stock but no dates.

[hassata]

What offset?

 

Sorry, from the angle of the pic, it looked like you might have offset the stick as Teej eloquently explained above.

[Zenra]

I am very jealous reading all these posts, and while I can afford it I cannot find anyplace to buy!! I search the Internet daily, but everybody seems to be out of stock - does anybody here know of any place with the HOTAS Warthog available (preferably in the USA)?

[kylania]

Zenra: http://www.scsimulations.com/content.php

[Zenra]

Zenra: http://www.scsimulations.com/content.php

Excellent - thanks, kylania!

[con3para]

Try amazon.com ,best buy ,play.com.,newegg, good luck

[hassata]

Well, simple. Unscrew the 4 screws at the bottom of the original plate, cut your own metal plate (used a 1mm thick steel plate) with the right dimensions, drill 4 holes for the stick base + as many holes to mount the plate in your pit. Put everything back together.

 

Thanks-worked great!

[JellybeanTiger]

Noooo Bloody way.

I don't care if it's made from gold.

I've been bitten by Thrustmaster too many times.

[MTFDarkEagle]

Noooo Bloody way.

I don't care if it's made from gold.

I've been bitten by Thrustmaster too many times.

Suit yourself ;)

[Slammin]

Who woke up Rip Van Winkle?

[tankaviator]

So the question about easily modding the Warthog stick to offset by 15 degrees seems to be easy to answer. Not squeemish about opening the stick? Then check this solution out: http://www.hotas.gr/content/view/90/96/lang,el/

[hassata]

There is a TARGET only solution over on the SimHQ forums that works without cutting of the corners (by using the zoom feature).

 

Here you go: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3176122/Re_Instructions_on_how_to_mod_.html#Post3176122

 

Note, you will loose WH plug and play wit TARGET, so you will have to incorporate the WH A10 script in the files section made by one of the members.

Edited March 14, 2011 by hassata

[Teej]

I picked up Metalnwood's extension kit. Very easy to rotate grip. :D

[Succellus]

I picked up Metalnwood's extension kit. Very easy to rotate grip. :D

 

lol