Koriel Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Things are probably a bit simpler than that. Suspect what ED are doing with this release is treating it as a dry run for their first full program release on-line and without a publisher. In this case and this is not a bad thing we have been guinea pigs to test out ED's processes. Ouch... So we pay $35 for a patch!!! and are actually betatesters??? I know it wil take resources, but If ED will persist in online sales they could go another way. Basically it works like this: We all have registered on this site / forum, and what ED could do is link our logins to an account which will always reflect what we have purchased etc.. Every time you need to install 1.1, or an addon a/c or scenery, whatever, you just have to connect to the activation server using your login and password. ED then keeps track of the times you activate, and from what ip number. If for some reason a specific login activates within a certain period from different ip adresses then some red flags start waving, and the account gets frozen. This means that the ultimate responsibility of not sharing you details lies with the user who can be penalized by having his account frozen, or his license revoked. ;) This way updating versions can be easy as well. Best would be having the program check for updates using your details. So say that ED does a F18 addon.. Then i can elect to purchase it or not. and that would be reflected in my account status. Now when I want to update my version with the latest patches and my lockon connects to the server and my software version is unlike the one they have in my account.. BOOM.. frozen... Personally I hate activation procedures, but I'd be willing to accept something like this.. Koriel out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlon Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 where is the dam news? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex979 Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Sigh... I feel the weekends creeping up again and still no game. It cannot take this long to set up and internet payment service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardukar Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 you cant do "login" stuff via ip, seeming most ppl have dynamic ips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Feedback Posted April 15, 2005 Author Share Posted April 15, 2005 you cant do "login" stuff via ip, seeming most ppl have dynamic ips They probably use a "hardware code" of your pc, these codes usually consist of some encrypted number, using the MAC, hard drive serials and an other component of your pc. (this based on an other way to determine your "unique hardware config", don't know if this applies to fux force) It's just too bad we're kept in the dark, while others are playing 1.1. I don't think they have troubles with verisign, I think paypal is argueing with ED. And don't whine about my speculations, just release an official statement. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Force Feedback, The verisign solution will be announced when its ready. It is understandable that people are being impatient, but considering the problems encountered with PayPal, I am sure you can understand that Eagle wants to make sure that things will work properly next time around. If you think ED is going to give you a detailed explanation on what goes on between them and PayPal, then you can think again. - JJ. JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Why is the PayPal buy link still on the site if we aren't supposed to use it? This is just making it confusing for anyone wishing to purchase the game (of which i'm one of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amount Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Force Feedback, The verisign solution will be announced when its ready. It is understandable that people are being impatient, but considering the problems encountered with PayPal, I am sure you can understand that Eagle wants to make sure that things will work properly next time around. If you think ED is going to give you a detailed explanation on what goes on between them and PayPal, then you can think again. - JJ. You are correct, EDs level of communication has be dismal so far, no need to expect that to change anytime soon I supposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koriel Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 you cant do "login" stuff via ip, seeming most ppl have dynamic ips True, but there are also things as ip bands i believe they are called.. Your ISP has a certain pool of ip numbers.. so if it comes from say 82.161.2.161, or 82.161.45.276 it is regarded as within an allowable band of ip adresses. IP adresses can also be seen as fysical locations. At the moment i am testing for a video app that shows you you country based on ip adresses, and it is possible to go a lot more exact then that. Koriel out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 You are correct, EDs level of communication has be dismal so far, no need to expect that to change anytime soon I supposed. I am not going to argue with you on this. You are not entitled to inside information on what goes on between ED and its business partners - period!. - JJ. JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlon Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 You are not entitled to inside information on what goes on between ED and its business partners - period!. - JJ. We are not interesed in knowing information between ED and its business parners, all we want is some information abouth the release of the game, we've been more than patient, and still no information. This is getting very stupid. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Feedback Posted April 15, 2005 Author Share Posted April 15, 2005 The statement says that the sales will be restored next week, lol, let's hope verisign does a better job for ED Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 We are not interesed in knowing information between ED and its business parners.... Kevlon, I was replying to this post by Force Feedback... It's just too bad we're kept in the dark, while others are playing 1.1. I don't think they have troubles with verisign, I think paypal is argueing with ED. And don't whine about my speculations, just release an official statement. ...explaining that whatever the problem between Paypal and ED will remain between them. ... all we want is some information abouth the release of the game, we've been more than patient, and still no information. This is getting very stupid. And as I told Force Feedback the information on new payment method will be given when the information is there to be given....so to speak :) . - JJ. JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlon Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 The statement says that the sales will be restored next week, lol, let's hope verisign does a better job for ED what statement? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywall23 Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 what statement? Check new sticky. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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