RobDog Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Just wanted to let anyone considering the Windows 7 beta know that Star Force does not recognize the new O.S. and states that it does not meet the minimum requirements for Lock On Flaming Cliffs. I have sent an email and error log to Star Force to inform them. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfsierra2 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thanks, Rob. This is another good reason for a patch 1.13. Make Starforce Win 7 compatible ! kind regards, Raven.... [sigpic]http://www.crc-mindreader.de/CRT/images/Birds2011.gif[/sigpic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleCat Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Did you try installing LockOn and Flaming Cliffs in compatibility mode? Vista or XP perhaps? Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobDog Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Sure did PCat. I'm a pc tech by day and an aircraft nut the rest of the time. Tried Compatibility mode on both the main Loc On exe and the Protect.exe that StarForce uses. I found a post on a forum stating that I could play Lock on if I installed the 1.01 - 1.02? patch over the Flaming Cliffs 1.12B. It works but I'm not sure HyperLobby will pass it for multiplay. I've recieved a reply from Star Force on the issue, but they sent me a cookie cutter "try this" email that was written for Vista users to update thier version of Star Force Protection. I have replied explaining "again" that the problem is specific to Windows 7 because it does not recognize Windows 7 as a compatible version of windows. I'll keep everyone up to speed as things go, but with Win 7 being beta I'm not sure how fast they will move on it. Thanks, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTiger Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I think the 1.12b patch, or whatever the Vista one is called, is specifically for Starforce. Meaning Starforce needs an update to recognize Vista. If I'm right, I'm not surprised it doesn't work with Windows 7. I'm surprised the fix you found worked, I would assume you'd just be totally screwed. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 It should work regardless, since Win7 is just a different flavor of Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhen Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) ...I found a post on a forum stating that I could play Lock on if I installed the 1.01 - 1.02? patch over the Flaming Cliffs 1.12B. It works but I'm not sure HyperLobby will pass it for multiplay.... Yeah, sadly I can confirm that the Starforce drivers included with LOFC & Patch 1.12b will not recognize Windows 7 Beta1 as a configurable OS. I've read somewhere that any version of Starforce before 3.5 won't work. I've tried using sfdrvup.exe (Starforce driver update utility) after removing the old starforce drivers with sfdrvrem.exe utility, but without any success using any of these methods. I've also read that copying and pasting the entire folder from a previous install on Vista worked for some games, but I don't see the point. Perhaps you might try that. Rerunning the 1.02 patch basically downgrades your LOMAC from 1.12 or 1.1 back to 1.02 if you've applied Flaming Cliffs or the 1.12 patch. Since 1.02 has no Starforce protection, you can run LOMAC (which is why this works). This means that you won't be able to connect to anyone who's on a 1.1 or 1.12 server. So, the ball's in Star Force and ED's court, for the time being. Whether they want to do anything about it (rapidly, slowly, or not at all) remains to be seen. Hope you have a dual-boot! :doh: Edited January 12, 2009 by Rhen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Yeah, sadly I can confirm that the Starforce drivers included with LOFC & Patch 1.12b will not recognize Windows 7 Beta1 as a configurable OS. I've read somewhere that any version of Starforce before 3.5 won't work. I've tried using sfdrvup.exe (Starforce driver update utility) after removing the old starforce drivers with sfdrvrem.exe utility, but without any success using any of these methods. I've also read that copying and pasting the entire folder from a previous install on Vista worked for some games, but I don't see the point. Perhaps you might try that. Rerunning the 1.02 patch basically downgrades your LOMAC from 1.12 or 1.1 back to 1.02 if you've applied Flaming Cliffs or the 1.12 patch. Since 1.02 has no Starforce protection, you can run LOMAC (which is why this works). This means that you won't be able to connect to anyone who's on a 1.1 or 1.12 server. So, the ball's in Star Force and ED's court, for the time being. Whether they want to do anything about it (rapidly, slowly, or not at all) remains to be seen. Hope you have a dual-boot! :doh: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=36145&page=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhen Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 So, it runs BS. Doesn't prove a thing since DCS is a newer stand-alone program that probably uses a version of SF that's greater than 3.07, which is what is in 1.12b, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 And what makes you think that starforce had a beta copy of Win7 just so BS could work on it? Have you tried to update your version of sf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhen Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Dude, I know you can be spring loaded towards the "YOU'RE WRONG!" direction, but if you would just do me the courtesy of reading past the first sentence of my first post, you'll see that I addressed everything in your post above. :smartass: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 IM merely stating that if they can get BS to work, then there is a way to get FC to work on Win7. This isnt me telling you you are wrong, this is me telling you that it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobDog Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Here is the reply from Star Force: Unfortunately, at this moment protection system is not compatable with Windows 7. We are planning to make drivers update in approximately 2 months starting from Windows 7 Beta 1 release. Sorry for the inconveniences Sounds like they intend on doing something which is encouraging.:) I'll update as I get any on this. BTW - With the exception of a couple of odd behaviours in I.E. 8, Win 7 is pretty darn cool. If you have a spare machine or don't mind messing with your main pc and reloading it, you should give it a try. L8er, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F2a Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Yep I'm stucking playing lomac 1.02 or reinstalling xp on another partition just for :music_whistling: starforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleCat Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I think due to OS being beta 1 we will probably just have to wait a bit longer for SF to support. I am quite certain they eventually will. All in all I do not see a whole lot of difference between W7 and Vista. I do think it more what Vista could have been at launch. Not sure it is much different under the hood but I like it so far. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaGURUinzaSKY Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 oh man I just spent an hour installing Lomac in win7 and only now I see this thread... lol.... I'll keep the install on the disk for the day it'll work... Robbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhen Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 StarForce says... http://www.star-force.com/support/users/windows7/ So now, it's up to ED, I guess.... :helpsmilie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow19 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Better hurry with those mystical 1.13 patch :D GAU-8/A Avenger / PGU-14/B API / PGU-13/B HEI/ LAU-68 rocket pods / 2× AIM-9 Sidewinders / 2× AGM-65 Maverick / 4× Mk20 Rockeye / ALQ-131 ECM / Two General Electric TF34-GE-100 turbofans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 OK so Lock on FC is still not playable on windows 7 beta, right? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Personally, I think its about time ED removed the StarForce from LOFC, but thats about as likely as a 1.13 patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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