captain_dalan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 As a divergence from the thread about the AIM-54 and RWR, i made a few tests involving the MiG-31 and the R-33. I tested only 3 planes, the F-14, F-16 and F-18. The initial launch is detected by all RWR's. However, in the F-14 at about 40-45 nautical miles, the alarm switches from being launched on to being locked. Can anyone confirm this behavior? Is it just me? Is it a bug? Or is it working as intended? And if so, why is it so? 2 Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sLYFa Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I've had the same behavior in both SP and MP, sometimes being hit out of nowhere by an R-33 long after the launch warning went off. I've also experienced the same with the Moskva cruiser (or whatever SV stands for). 2 i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 So it's not just the 31 then 1 Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defeatist99 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/25/2021 at 6:17 AM, captain_dalan said: So it's not just the 31 then Nope. Happened a few times today with the Mig-25 as well with R-40's. Beat the first one, then nothing but nails until I explode from a 60 mile shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey11 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Bumping this bug report, and probably submitting one for an extremely.... err... optimistic... flight modelling of the R33. Tonight on the 107th TTI Syria server, myself, with Human RIO (Teomo) were doing an attack profile on a MiG-31 set to Expert AI. Timeline of Events: -Get spike at 85nmi, no launch warning, -We dive from 42k to 30k, then pull up to loft our 54 -Launch our 54 at 65nmi, 42k feet, Mach 1.15 -Crank right to gimbal, start diving to the deck while keeping MiG31 at gimbal -Still no Launch Warning or Missile Inbound warning -At our AIM54's TTI of ~21 seconds we go poof, our 54 goes dumb Time of Engagement: ~2 minutes Tacview file, truncated, is attached. I'm [107th-R] Whiskey 936 in the F-14B. MiG-31 is listed as "MiG-31 (A2A_Spawn_Init_ACAP#001-02)". Few interesting takeaways... The R33 has a ridiculously flat and fast profile which defies missile physics. At 65nmi, the AIM-54 capped out 60k feet and about Mach 4.54 after being manually lofted (it actually nosed DOWN to its loft profile after launch) at Mach 1.15. After travelling ~50nmi, the Phoenix has effectively the same energy as the R33 (slightly more, by about .2 Mach) launched at 80nmi by a faster MiG-31 (Mach 1.82... jeesus that thing is fast to accelerate (1.5 to 1.8 in 1 minute). At any rate, a combination of an RWR which didn't respond AT ALL to being launched on, and a broken missile leaves me asking some questions. Don't know if the RWR thing is squarely in HB's house or ED's house, but it's frustrating none the less. F14B_vs_MiG31_WTF.txt.acmi My YT Channel (DCS World, War Thunder and World of Warships) Too Many Modules to List --Unapologetically In Love With the F-14-- Anytime Baby! -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Whiskey11 said: Few interesting takeaways... The R33 has a ridiculously flat and fast profile which defies missile physics. That's the old (pre-HB) Phoenix FM or something very similar to it. They were known to sprint at mach 5 as low as 15000ft or so. Very flat, very fast. 1 Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Thank you, I fwded it to Grover. 1 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, IronMike said: Thank you, I fwded it to Grover. Always a pleasure! Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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