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Could anyone in a position to know tell me if USAF Vipers do formations take offs currently?  I had heard they'd shelved them due to safety concerns.  Is this still the case? 

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Interval takeoffs are the most common.  I base this on watching fighters take off in front of me for coronets and exercises.  Interval takeoffs get them off the ground quicker as opposed to lining everyone up on the runway, running up their engines, and releasing brakes.  Other fighters do that, too.  AF stopped fingertip landings (in training at least) due to a mishap in late 2019.  

 

Edit: this isn't to say that fingertip takeoffs aren't allowed.  I don't know if they are or aren't; you'd have to ask an actual F-16 guy, or maybe a tail-spotter from near an F-16 base.


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11 hours ago, Xavven said:

Yes, they do formation take offs, or yes, they shelved them due to safety concerns? Sorry, just want to erase any doubts!

Yea, sorry for the vague response.  Normal ops do not allow for formation take-offs.  It was quite common back in the day once a pilot had passed a certain number of hours/takeoffs, but it's not done anymore unless special circumstances like an airshow.  Safety was the primary concern for normal ops.  It's not required other than to show it can be done, with a lot of risk for very little operational gain.  Even with experienced pilots at the controls it's not allowed for normal day to day ops.

 

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Thx for all the answers.  I sort of expected this was still the case. 

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On 8/22/2021 at 10:30 PM, Scrape said:

Yea, sorry for the vague response.  Normal ops do not allow for formation take-offs.  It was quite common back in the day once a pilot had passed a certain number of hours/takeoffs, but it's not done anymore unless special circumstances like an airshow.  Safety was the primary concern for normal ops.  It's not required other than to show it can be done, with a lot of risk for very little operational gain.  Even with experienced pilots at the controls it's not allowed for normal day to day ops.

 

But I guess Thunderbirds stil do formation takeoffs and landings right?

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I don't think demonstration teams are bound by the same SOP/limitations as the average squadron.

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