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Hey guys, still working on precision flying with my sidewinder ffb2 stick. 

 

1) So I've read the proper way to maneuver is to hold the trim button down then make your maneuver then release the trim. The problem is, as soon as you press the trimmer button, all the force feedback suddenly disappears, so all you have is a limp stick. This makes flying the machine very hard because it goes from having pressures on both axis holding the stick in place to instantly there's no feedback at all and the stick just flops over.

 

Is this happening to other with FFB sticks? It would seem to me to make sense the ffb would just stay put where it was when you pressed it until you released it and then it would hold the new position.  

 

2) another weird thing that happens is if i tape the trimmer button, helicopter tends to lurch forward much farther than the location i pressed the trimmer. this happen to anyone else?

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4 часа назад, dresoccer4 сказал:

Hey guys, still working on precision flying with my sidewinder ffb2 stick. 

 

1) So I've read the proper way to maneuver is to hold the trim button down then make your maneuver then release the trim. The problem is, as soon as you press the trimmer button, all the force feedback suddenly disappears, so all you have is a limp stick. This makes flying the machine very hard because it goes from having pressures on both axis holding the stick in place to instantly there's no feedback at all and the stick just flops over.

 

Is this happening to other with FFB sticks? It would seem to me to make sense the ffb would just stay put where it was when you pressed it until you released it and then it would hold the new position.  

 

2) another weird thing that happens is if i tape the trimmer button, helicopter tends to lurch forward much farther than the location i pressed the trimmer. this happen to anyone else?


Hello. Yes, this is exactly how the trimmer works for me on the G940FFB. I just trim the helicopter just like the Mi-8 - with single clicks trim button.

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Hey guys, still working on precision flying with my sidewinder ffb2 stick. 
 
1) So I've read the proper way to maneuver is to hold the trim button down then make your maneuver then release the trim. The problem is, as soon as you press the trimmer button, all the force feedback suddenly disappears, so all you have is a limp stick. This makes flying the machine very hard because it goes from having pressures on both axis holding the stick in place to instantly there's no feedback at all and the stick just flops over.
 
Is this happening to other with FFB sticks? It would seem to me to make sense the ffb would just stay put where it was when you pressed it until you released it and then it would hold the new position.  
 
2) another weird thing that happens is if i tape the trimmer button, helicopter tends to lurch forward much farther than the location i pressed the trimmer. this happen to anyone else?
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Here's a little app that can help you a little, so the stick doesn't go totally limp, if you don't like that.
Cheers!

https://github.com/joeyjojojunior/simFFB

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Thats weird. Mine does not limp and it stays still and holds its position after I release the trim button. I do have taped the sensor on my MSFFB2 tho.

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On 7/16/2021 at 9:50 PM, dresoccer4 said:

Hey guys, still working on precision flying with my sidewinder ffb2 stick. 

 

1) So I've read the proper way to maneuver is to hold the trim button down then make your maneuver then release the trim. The problem is, as soon as you press the trimmer button, all the force feedback suddenly disappears, so all you have is a limp stick. This makes flying the machine very hard because it goes from having pressures on both axis holding the stick in place to instantly there's no feedback at all and the stick just flops over.

 

Is this happening to other with FFB sticks? It would seem to me to make sense the ffb would just stay put where it was when you pressed it until you released it and then it would hold the new position.  

The stick going 'limp' is exactly how it is for any FFB stick, and also the real aircraft.

 

It should maybe be only a little damped (you may not be able to feel it depending on your stick). But it goes limp until you release trimmer, then stays in the position you trimmed it to.

On 7/16/2021 at 9:50 PM, dresoccer4 said:

2) another weird thing that happens is if i tape the trimmer button, helicopter tends to lurch forward much farther than the location i pressed the trimmer. this happen to anyone else?

It may be the Pitch Autopilot acting once you release the trimmer. It'll always try to keep pitch the same as when you released the button, regardless of how the stick is trimmed. But with limited authority while at that.

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On 7/17/2021 at 2:50 AM, dresoccer4 said:

Hey guys, still working on precision flying with my sidewinder ffb2 stick. 

 

1) So I've read the proper way to maneuver is to hold the trim button down then make your maneuver then release the trim. The problem is, as soon as you press the trimmer button, all the force feedback suddenly disappears, so all you have is a limp stick. This makes flying the machine very hard because it goes from having pressures on both axis holding the stick in place to instantly there's no feedback at all and the stick just flops over.

 

Is this happening to other with FFB sticks? It would seem to me to make sense the ffb would just stay put where it was when you pressed it until you released it and then it would hold the new position.  

 

2) another weird thing that happens is if i tape the trimmer button, helicopter tends to lurch forward much farther than the location i pressed the trimmer. this happen to anyone else?

Proper and proper... I've seen some clips of the Ka-50 flying IRL, and the way I usually flew (has been a few years now), was to repeatedly click the button until you have your desired attitude. That way you end up with a less limp stick and more of a controlled transition.

 

Not sure about your second point, perhaps you build up momentum prior to trimming?

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Proper and proper... I've seen some clips of the Ka-50 flying IRL, and the way I usually flew (has been a few years now), was to repeatedly click the button until you have your desired attitude. That way you end up with a less limp stick and more of a controlled transition.
 
Not sure about your second point, perhaps you build up momentum prior to trimming?
Yeah, but I keep holding it pressed though. One gets used to it. It's the same for all the helis but the Gazelle for me. I think my style is due to the "limp" center of the FFB2. It has no dead zone at all for the sensors, but it's not tight enough in the center, for lack of better words. So if I repeatedly keep trimming I always tend to overcompensate. All four of mine has the exact same issue. And I've seen others on various forums that report the same.
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On 7/16/2021 at 10:36 PM, STONE SKY said:


Hello. Yes, this is exactly how the trimmer works for me on the G940FFB. I just trim the helicopter just like the Mi-8 - with single clicks trim button.

 

Seems like that's how at least some of the Russian Ka-50 pilots do it as well. Listen for the trim clicks in this video:

 

 

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