Mainstay Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Would really love a version with a HMG turret. From what im reading this was actually the ultimate version. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmukY Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) The problem is the Russian govt., especially defense ministry will most likely say "Нет!" Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have additional variants of hinds too, but I think we can consider ourselves very lucky that we actually got the P version at all. Edited July 15, 2021 by SmukY 2 Helicopters don't fly, they just subdue the air. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstay Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, SmukY said: The problem is the Russian govt., especially defense ministry will most likely say "Нет!" Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have additional variants of hinds too, but I think we can consider ourselves very lucky that we actually got the P version at all. Yeah i know the way to Russian planes, helo's and automobiles isnt an easy one. But on the other hand if you got the go for the P the road to get permission to make a VP seems a lot shorter and you already know the players on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC_Official Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 +1 this would have been the version I would have picked to have made 1 No more pre-orders Click here for tutorials for using Virpil Hardware and Software Click here for Virpil Flight equipment dimensions and pictures. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Not sure how different this chopper would be to the P version, it's just a chin turret. Basically you are offloading the aiming and firing of the gun on a strafing run to the guy in the front seat. The helicopter still needs to jink, when coming under fire, which would make aiming the gun really difficult anyway. Unless they've changed the operating and tactical procedures of the VP, where the helicopter would hover and fire the turret from a distance. Which i really doubt. I'd take the 30mm twin cannon over the chin turret any day of the week. Specs: Win10, i5-13600KF, 32GB DDR4 RAM 3200XMP, 1 TB M2 NVMe SSD, KFA2 RTX3090, VR G2 Headset, Warthog Throttle+Saitek Pedals+MSFFB2 Joystick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrov Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I'd honestly be happy with just an old school D or a V as an additional variant you can buy sometime down the road 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Same, I'd love a V. It was the most produced variant, and it's basically a 95% copy and paste of our current P. Pilot cockpit is basically identical apart from the weapons selector, the main difference would be redo of the operator cockpit. Nearly identical 3D model (only really the turret, maybe Lipa - even if non-functional). Basically identical flight dynamics (just different recoil and maybe weight), engine might be a slightly different variant. It can replace the current AI Mi-24V. Ultimately, the overwhelming majority of Hinds and Hind variants had trainable turrets, even if it can be argued they're less effective than the fixed 30mm cannon. The Huey also has unstabilised guns that can be difficult to aim, and it's calibre isn't much more than half of the YakB. 2 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstay Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 This is also an interesting read : https://en.topwar.ru/25832-40-let-legendarnomu-boevomu-vertoletu-mi-24-chast-3-modifikaciya.html Despite the high characteristics of the YakB-12,7 machine gun, he did not fully suit the army Aviation. Gradually came to the thought of the need to equip the Mi-24 30-mm automatic gun GSH-ZOK. But the mass and recoil force during firing did not allow its placement in the USPU-24 installation instead of a machine gun. The GSH-ZOK was mounted motionless in the U-280 installation on the starboard side of the helicopter, and the combat button was placed on the pilot's control handle.In 1975, the tests of the Mi-24P helicopter (product 243) began, which, due to the refinement weapons dragged on for more than five years. Only in April, 1981 g. Cannon modification launched into mass production. The subsequent operation of the machine revealed a lack of efficiency and limited application of the fixed gun. Experience has shown that it is much more rational to use a mobile cannon-mount NPPU-24 (9А-4454) with an 23-mm double-barreled gun GSH-23Л. The helicopter, equipped with this installation, received the designation Mi-24VP (product 258). Compared to the machine gun USPU-24, the firing sector in the horizontal plane did not change, but the vertical deflection of the barrels became possible in the range from + 10 ° to - 40 ° (previously from + 2 ° to - 60 °). The mass of the installation did not change, but the rate of fire was reduced from 5000 to 3400 shots / min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart666 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I think they only ever built about 24 VP's before ending Hind production, so its not like it was much more common than the KA50. I think the P was the right choice. But if they ever felt like doing an addon pack with a V or a D then Id be delighted with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I'd love to get that variant later on as an upgrade like BS3 or A-10C II, but if I'd have to choose, I'd prefer the V. Getting both would be optimal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinkey Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 +1 From a multi-crew perspective this looks much more engaging, especially in the front seat. Tried the current version in multi-crew the other day and both of us found it more exhausting than fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNicePig Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 4:19 PM, Morrov said: I'd honestly be happy with just an old school D or a V as an additional variant you can buy sometime down the road Maybe pack them together like with the F-14A/B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrain Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) IMO the next logical step would be the 1M upgrade for the P model. Looks awesome with a lot of added capability. That's provided they get permission from the manufacture. Could be a selling point to any country you are trying to sell it to. It's an export version on top of that. I don't think the Russian government is buying any. Edited August 24, 2021 by NightTrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 As Stuart alluded to, even Alex/Pilot-Mi-8 the head of the dev team said that they made so little of the VP it couldn’t have been that good and what’s the point, that a more produced variant would be a much better idea but still unlikely Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstay Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 Either a V or VP would be a great addon to the Mi24 we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Well there's also the export Mi-35P: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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