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Persian Gulf is too modern for Iraq war, anyway. The Dubai shoreline was nothing like that in the 80s, nevermind the skyline. PG, as it is, is a 2010+ map, suitable only for the new A-10 and the Harrier (which, for some bizarre reason, was modeled as a 2010s variant). Dubai in particular exploded in 2000s, here's how it was in the 80s:

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This is the DCS paradox: if you want to simulate something accurately, if it's military related you can do it only if it's at least 15 years old, while for cities and landscapes you can be current.

Thus, you fly 15-20 years old airplanes in a 2020 scenery.

Why not to choose a 20 years old scenery? This should be asked to ED.

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Personally, I'm not interested in changing the variant of the F-5E, though preferably, it should be accurate to something in particular rather than a hybrid.

 

I'm mostly interested in correcting bugs, especially major ones like the engine bug, and the RWR search mode bug.

 

Past that, a graphical rework of the interior and exterior (especially concerning graphical representation of damage), and a major improvement to the RADAR, as well as implementing missing functionality to the RWR.


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On 7/27/2021 at 5:13 AM, nessuno0505 said:

This is the DCS paradox: if you want to simulate something accurately, if it's military related you can do it only if it's at least 15 years old, while for cities and landscapes you can be current.

Thus, you fly 15-20 years old airplanes in a 2020 scenery.

Why not to choose a 20 years old scenery? This should be asked to ED.

Why would you ask this? The real only difference would be a population change which means some neighborhoods would still be parking lots or wooded areas. I've lived in neighborhoods that have remained basically unchanged but expanded on in 150+ years.  in NYC alone its remain fairly unchanged in the last 50 years save for the WTC neighborhood. Kinda pointless.

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On 7/27/2021 at 11:07 AM, Dragon1-1 said:

Persian Gulf is too modern for Iraq war, anyway. The Dubai shoreline was nothing like that in the 80s, nevermind the skyline. PG, as it is, is a 2010+ map, suitable only for the new A-10 and the Harrier (which, for some bizarre reason, was modeled as a 2010s variant). Dubai in particular exploded in 2000s, here's how it was in the 80s:

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So what would be even the point of PG map if it doesn't represent the region during practically the only serious military conflict? Fictional scenarios only? Strange choice.

It would be like: let's make a Vietnam map. But you know what, WW2 era or year 2000...


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Fictional, although Iran is currently doing great at providing a fodder for such scenarios, like what Baltic Dragon is doing with his Hormuz series. It doesn't take much to imagine the region will blow up one of these days. I'd definitely prefer a more Gulf War focused map, but we have the one with a fancy post-2010 Dubai.

 

7 hours ago, Hammer1-1 said:

Why would you ask this? The real only difference would be a population change which means some neighborhoods would still be parking lots or wooded areas. I've lived in neighborhoods that have remained basically unchanged but expanded on in 150+ years.  in NYC alone its remain fairly unchanged in the last 50 years save for the WTC neighborhood. Kinda pointless.

In some places, like Caucasus, what you say is true (in fact, it's about the correct timeframe for our modules). In PG, the most prominent part of the map was utterly transformed in recent years. Syria is a mixed bag, most of the countryside hasn't changed, big cities have some recent landmarks, not to mention they expanded in the recent years, as well. Airports and airbases are the big ones, those in Caucasus region are stuck in post-Soviet state (as they indeed were in mid-2000s), while in other maps there might be significant changes. I'm not familiar with the history of those regions enough to identify the changes off the top of my head, but if you know what to look for, you can likely find many examples (of course, it's easier to overlook if the changes are not as egregious as Dubai's expansion).

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On 7/28/2021 at 6:40 PM, kseremak said:

 

 

 

So what would be even the point of PG map if it doesn't represent the region during practically the only serious military conflict? Fictional scenarios only? Strange choice.

It would be like: let's make a Vietnam map. But you know what, WW2 era or year 2000...

 

Some of us ask what's the point of a PG map that doesn't have Iraq or Kuwait. Or a Caucuses map without the Crimea, OR Northern Turkey. 

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3 minutes ago, RustBelt said:

Some of us ask what's the point of a PG map that doesn't have Iraq or Kuwait. Or a Caucuses map without the Crimea, OR Northern Turkey. 


Haven’t you seen the many missions for those Maps that are already on User’s Files? ... seems plenty of mission designers can come up with interesting missions in spite those areas not being on the map. 😇

 

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15 hours ago, Baltic Pirate said:

F5 is pretty good as it is. It could however use a VHF NAV and ILS receiver with FD needles on the ADI and or a GPS navigator. I would wager the Brazilian would require extensive work if not a totally new model.

It could also do with a face lift and use the graphical enhancements of 2.7 

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also needs a GPU-5/A 😙

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18 hours ago, Baltic Pirate said:

F5 is pretty good as it is. It could however use a VHF NAV and ILS receiver with FD needles on the ADI and or a GPS navigator. I would wager the Brazilian would require extensive work if not a totally new model.

Why? Its TACAN/ILS with needles works fine for any weather that this bird would EVER actually launch into

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1 hour ago, pmiceli said:

Why? Its TACAN/ILS with needles works fine for any weather that this bird would EVER actually launch into

You say TACAN ILS needles. For some reason I've not been able to get the ILS to work, if t has it. They are both distinctly different systems. I'll have to do some research the F5 has something hidden in it. But as far as I know, it has TACAN and ADF and that's it.  If it had a VHF NAV (like ILS), that be located on the right side pedestal and the NAVIGATION MODE SELECTOR would have the additional VHF option. One has precision approach system in the Mig-21 that is the one you would most likely face. You could always do a PAR approach if you have a live controller working with you. A TACAN approach procedure is at best comparable to a VOR approach with associated high minima of 800-1000ft and a 2000m visibility requirement.

 

It is also not the weather you launch, it is the weather you recover, be that after take off or after mission. I fly in real life so I tend to take weather into account with DCS flying and with more dynamic weather options available, I would say that it be certainly worth the consideration. Just to add for a CAT1 ILS your minima would be a DH of 200ft and visibility 750m. That is certainly weather one would launch into.


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