Picure Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I am having this problem where trimming will drive my stick to the opposite side of where I initially trimmed and when I press trim again, it will run back to the opposite side again. I am running an Logitech G940. Mi8 and KA50 trims still work fine so I don't think its a DCS update problem. I made a video demoing this problem DCS Mi24 Hind Force Feedback Trim Bug - YouTube Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 17, 2021 ED Team Share Posted June 17, 2021 In the Special Tab for the Mi-24 there are some Trimmer Options, have you tried these? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Picure Posted June 17, 2021 Author Solution Share Posted June 17, 2021 I solved the problem! There turns out for some reason, you can invert x and y axis for the force feedback buttons. I found out about this because I tried trimming with the hat on the stick and it was going the opposite way I was trimming. I just inverted all axis for my trimmer buttons (doesn't really make a lot of sense for having an axis for a button) and it fixed the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 17, 2021 ED Team Share Posted June 17, 2021 Glad you got it sorted! 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picure Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, NineLine said: In the Special Tab for the Mi-24 there are some Trimmer Options, have you tried these? Yes, I tried all the different kinds of trimmer settings to no avail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Yeah this was driving me crazy, turns out under FFB axis settings you need to hit all three checkboxes. 2 Specs: Win10, i5-13600KF, 32GB DDR4 RAM 3200XMP, 1 TB M2 NVMe SSD, KFA2 RTX3090, VR G2 Headset, Warthog Throttle+Saitek Pedals+MSFFB2 Joystick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picure Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 Force Feedback Fixed DCS Mi24 Force Feedback Bug Fix - YouTube Just now, Lurker said: Yeah this was driving me crazy, turns out under FFB axis settings you need to hit all three checkboxes. its weird, never had to do this before with any of the other choppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Picure said: Force Feedback Fixed DCS Mi24 Force Feedback Bug Fix - YouTube its weird, never had to do this before with any of the other choppers. Exactly. Which is why it was driving me crazy, at least we managed to get it to work. 1 Specs: Win10, i5-13600KF, 32GB DDR4 RAM 3200XMP, 1 TB M2 NVMe SSD, KFA2 RTX3090, VR G2 Headset, Warthog Throttle+Saitek Pedals+MSFFB2 Joystick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picure Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 Now does anyone know if double clicking the trimmer=trimmer reset is normal? Because that is how it is for me right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Wouldn't call this correct as is. Inverting the force effects is an easy quick workaround though, but this is the only module which needs that ATM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I need to swap all axis on every module for MY MS FFB2. Did that, but had to Invert X/Y as well for once. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dresoccer4 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) On 6/17/2021 at 3:46 AM, Picure said: I solved the problem! There turns out for some reason, you can invert x and y axis for the force feedback buttons. I found out about this because I tried trimming with the hat on the stick and it was going the opposite way I was trimming. I just inverted all axis for my trimmer buttons (doesn't really make a lot of sense for having an axis for a button) and it fixed the problem. hi - can you explain in a little more detail how to do this? I am also experiencing this bug with my MSFT Sidewinder FFB2 joystick and it's driving me nuts. How do you invert the trim button? I don't see any trim command under the Axis menu Edited June 18, 2021 by dresoccer4 Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 hi - can you explain in a little more detail how to do this? I am also experiencing this bug with my MSFT Sidewinder FFB2 joystick and it's driving me nuts. How do you invert the trim button? I don't see any trim command under the Axis menuJust a little typo I guess, as there are no FFB buttons. I'm sure he means the FFB check boxes.Anyway, it's very easily solved.Just open control settings, axis, click on MS FFB column, click FFB, check all three boxes. Swap, x and y.In all others modules I have to swap the axis. Hind is the first I have to invert to.Hope this helps!Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dresoccer4 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Just a little typo I guess, as there are no FFB buttons. I'm sure he means the FFB check boxes. Anyway, it's very easily solved. Just open control settings, axis, click on MS FFB column, click FFB, check all three boxes. Swap, x and y. In all others modules I have to swap the axis. Hind is the first I have to invert to. Hope this helps! Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk got it to work, thanks! only other issue now is, the rudder won't stay trimmed. do you know if this is tied into the same issue? does yours work? Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 got it to work, thanks! only other issue now is, the rudder won't stay trimmed. do you know if this is tied into the same issue? does yours work?Try turning in the YAW autopilot channel. The leftmost one. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMH Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) On 6/17/2021 at 3:46 AM, Picure said: I solved the problem! There turns out for some reason, you can invert x and y axis for the force feedback buttons. I found out about this because I tried trimming with the hat on the stick and it was going the opposite way I was trimming. I just inverted all axis for my trimmer buttons (doesn't really make a lot of sense for having an axis for a button) and it fixed the problem. I have this too, FFB axes appear inverted. You trim the stick to one side and it re-centers to the other side. And it's never been a problem with FFB in any of the other ED choppers (Mi-8, UH-1H, Ka-50). Where exactly are you finding this trimmer axis setting? [Never mind, found it! I haven't had to use this on any DCS aircraft until now so you might want to change the default FFB axis directions.] And rudder normally doesn't trim in helicopters. But in the Special Menu there's an option to enable it. (I don't use it as I have pedals. Can test if you need though.) Edited June 19, 2021 by SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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