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Mach 1.5 @25k feet at MIL power?


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Hi, with a clean F-14B and standard day (15 degrees, no wind), I can reach mach 1.5 at MIL. 

That is, I never had to engage the A/B, just MIL power all the way to Mach 1.5. 

 

I know the F-14B could supercruise just above Mach 1, but Mach 1.5? That's F-22-like supercruise. 

So I'm reporting this as a bug. 

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Could you please give more details about your flight ? What altitude ? Was it in a dive ?

No loadout I assume ? 

 

Still very surprising. 

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I can confirm. Tested level flight in clean F-14B (no gun ammunition, no stores, full internal fuel) @MIL power, 25k ft, 15 deg. C day and no wind, it slowly gets to almost M1.5 - the fuel is @13.0 then.

And specially for @Donut - same test with empty bags - it gets to M1.1 only.

 

Edit: this is just to confirm the numbers - I don't know about real aircraft performance


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From wikipedia:

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Supercruise is sustained supersonic flight of a supersonic aircraft with a useful cargo, passenger, or weapons load without using afterburner (also known as "reheat").

 

Many 4th generation fighter jets are technically capable of supercruise, but only at high altitudes and in a clean configuration. For an aircraft to be deemed capable of true supercruise, it must be able to carry a normal load for an extended distance without diving or using an afterburner. Optimally, qualifying for "true supercruise" would involve demonstrating the ability with a combat load at low to medium altitudes; being able to break Mach 1 without afterburner does not in itself show supercruise ability.

 


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Yeah, not too surprising while clean, but no way of telling without HB acknowledgment on this...they seem to have disappeared lately though from posts concerning the FM.

 

I tested this as well and get the same results.  As draconus pointed out, I find it interesting that the drop tanks seem to have an appropriate drag effect here, while as in my test from another post, they don't.

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On 6/10/2021 at 10:50 PM, AH_Solid_Snake said:

In a clean configuration its not surprising the B can supercruise once you get up to 25k, although whether 1.5 is realistic I'm not sure

Probably not. But FM changes are in the making, so we'll need to wait.

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