base and rudder are not centered after spawning

[ariyaner]

hey
i have VPC T-50CM2 and

VPC Rudder Pedals

when i spawn or respawn in single and multiplayer they are flip out to the left

i have to touch both axis to center them

 

unboxing "synch HOTAS" fix it - but is no solution for me

any idea´s

also we have only 4 axis to buttons funktions ? , - why not more

[The LT]

This is most probably not a VPC issue.

[ariyaner]

before i hat tm base + saitekrudder
and not the problem

[Svsmokey]

Don't think this is a Virpil problem . I have all CH hotas and rudder pedals , and have gotten in the habit of cycling all axes after opening DCS , after experiencing similar problems . 

[kaventsmann]

I have the same problem. I got my VPC pedals and since then stick and rudder are always full left when i spawn / respawn. 

 

I had no problems with just the WarBRD+ConstAlpha and the CM3 Throttle.... 

[schmiefel]

I recognized the same ‘issue‘ as soon as the sync HOTAS option is activated, wich I prefer to get the button states with my Warthog throttle synced.

[Bastlwastl]

May i ask what version of DCS you guys are using?

[Svend_Dellepude]

On 5/23/2021 at 11:14 PM, schmiefel said:

I recognized the same ‘issue‘ as soon as the sync HOTAS option is activated, wich I prefer to get the button states with my Warthog throttle synced.

 

This is the issue, and have been like this for years. The problem is that hall sensors are so precise and don't have much jitter plus a deadzone when centered build into the firmware. Therefor you need to move them before the game will recognise the position. Or turn off ''SYNC'' option.

[schmiefel]

14 minutes ago, Svend_Dellepude said:

 

This is the issue, and have been like this for years. The problem is that hall sensors are so precise and don't have much jitter plus a deadzone when centered build into the firmware. Therefor you need to move them before the game will recognise the position. Or turn off ''SYNC'' option.

That's an interesting and convincing information. The only thing that makes me wonder, why only the hall sensor controlled VPC stick is affected by this and not the VPC ACE rudder as well that also uses hall sensors and is perfectly centered, when entering the jet. Plus doing a cold start this effect doesn't happen for the stick, too, maybe because no AC systems are powered then. Maybe I'll check when a hot start from ramp is done.

[Svend_Dellepude]

Good question. Maybe there is something with the way the axis are programmed in DCS ( not in options but within the programme) or maybe you moved the rudders during loading. Don't actually remember if the latter is possible, I turned SYNC off many years ago after discovering this issue.

[schmiefel]

Another thing that came to my mind is, when doing the tutorial missions starting in the air the sim is on active pause at first and then this 'issue' doesn't happen as well when active pause is cancelled. So there seem to be some more logic in play besides the sync HOTAS stuff...

[Lange_666]

7 hours ago, Svend_Dellepude said:

 I turned SYNC off many years ago after discovering this issue.

 

Same here (only not so many years ago). Turning SYNC off solves the problem of axis being in a certain position on respawn. It's not VPC related, had a TM Cougar and now a TM Warthog (with VPC base), both had the problem (my Cougar had a hall sensor mod) and the issue is still there when when SYNC is ticked. It's not a VPC issue but a DCS one.

 

[Svend_Dellepude]

Something comes to mind. @schmiefel Do you have any other controllers assigned to the axis in question? Like button boxes or other peripherals that doesn't have any physical axis? By default DCS assigns axis of any controller to pitch and roll, even if the controller doesn't have any. 

[schmiefel]

5 minutes ago, Svend_Dellepude said:

Something comes to mind. @schmiefel Do you have any other controllers assigned to the axis in question? Like button boxes or other peripherals that doesn't have any physical axis? By default DCS assigns axis of any controller to pitch and roll, even if the controller doesn't have any. 

I will check this, but as I tend to clean all default controller settings when configuring a plane, I doubt that there should be some ‘faulty‘ default assignments been left.

[Svend_Dellepude]

Just a thought. Since i didn't mess with this option for years I don't have a clear recollection on how thorough I investigated this back then.

[Bastlwastl]

Yesterday i discovered the following:

 

When both of my Thrustmaster MFDs are connected i have the problem with the not synced axis (only in F-18, P-51 and Mig-21 and only with the „Hotas Sync“ activated). As soon as i disconnect one MFD, the problem is gone...

 

Really weird behaviour, maybe i do some more testing tonight.

[vCSG3 Bloat 203]

definitely getting this in the hornet, using 3x TM MFDs and either X52 or the Orion - air spawns always start with a corkscrew