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Last night I was training on NTTR IA Gen III mission and what happens very often was that I look around for targets, see a black dot (no labels, VR), try to lock it with VSL or PAL, but I get only TCS lock from Jester, then it turns out it's a parachute - ejected pilot! Never had this before. Is it correct behavior?

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On 4/27/2021 at 4:55 AM, draconus said:

Last night I was training on NTTR IA Gen III mission and what happens very often was that I look around for targets, see a black dot (no labels, VR), try to lock it with VSL or PAL, but I get only TCS lock from Jester, then it turns out it's a parachute - ejected pilot! Never had this before. Is it correct behavior?

 

There weren’t any examples of F14 RIO’s hanging around to see if they could lock up parachutes after Mig Kills. 😉

 

The radar would easily lock the spreader bar on a towed gunnery banner using VSL or PLM, so perhaps that is a useful reference. I also think I had a RIO lock up a parachute flare for a sidewinder shot, but that’s a metallic object compared to a human pilot under a silk chute.

 

Maybe if he had a lot of low quality dental work?


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There are some small metal parts in the harness and pilot equipment... but what about TCS? Its search mode area is very small afaik. I'll have to look again - maybe it gets locked when I put it at ADL or below (some default TCS direction).

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Not that I think this was intended by us it's also not an issue as it seems to be realistic to me! 🙂

 

Locking onto a human dangling in a parachute with a radar would be quite hard as he's unlikely to give off enough of a radar return. The TCS however would be able to lock onto the contrast of the human and the parachute given the right conditions.

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Actually from what I know its somewhat realistic. When we visited our helicopter base once as a school trip (Mi-17s, 24s) when I was still at school, we had oportunitty to talk to ATC operator at the tower, and he told us that when paratroopers were jumping out of Mi-17 few clicks away he could see radar returns of the metal parts in the parachute harness just like draconus said (he could not recognize individual paratroopers, but them from Mi-17, if im remembering correctly, it was some time ago). It was an ATC radar and they were pretty close, so how stable the lock would be for targeting is a question.

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