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Specifically, the D's (today).

Is it me... or are these pretty much the most janky weapon ever?  I honestly can't tell if it's buggy, or simply so full of steps (let's call them "options") that it's near impossible to get everything right all at once.

As I understand it, you can use Auto-Handoff.  Well, not so much... maybe.  Who friggin knows?  Sometimes you get the Target Cross on the Hud... sometimes you don't.  Did you Boresight?  I don't know... I tried, maybe I did.  When I've been lucky enough to get the WPN pg AND a target cross on in the area, I can't slow the slew enough to keep it from firing a few km one way or another.  Sometimes you can switch from "Pre" to "Vis", occasionally you can't, when it gets stuck on Bore, and you don't remember putting it there, and occasionally you can if you do, or don't.  I don't know.  I give up.  I do, I just don't have the hours to wrap my head around this.

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Mavericks are a pain. While I need to go to work now, there are a couple of video tutorials out there, think from Wags and probably a good one from the grim reapers about alignment. 

But... They aren't easy to use together with a targeting pod. 

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On 4/27/2021 at 3:08 AM, Mikkall said:

Specifically, the D's (today).

Is it me... or are these pretty much the most janky weapon ever?  I honestly can't tell if it's buggy, or simply so full of steps (let's call them "options") that it's near impossible to get everything right all at once.

As I understand it, you can use Auto-Handoff.  Well, not so much... maybe.  Who friggin knows?  Sometimes you get the Target Cross on the Hud... sometimes you don't.  Did you Boresight?  I don't know... I tried, maybe I did.  When I've been lucky enough to get the WPN pg AND a target cross on in the area, I can't slow the slew enough to keep it from firing a few km one way or another.  Sometimes you can switch from "Pre" to "Vis", occasionally you can't, when it gets stuck on Bore, and you don't remember putting it there, and occasionally you can if you do, or don't.  I don't know.  I give up.  I do, I just don't have the hours to wrap my head around this.

what's preventing you from switching between PRE and VIS might be a Point Track with the TPOD. That prevent's it currently. But I haven't researched whether it is correct or not.

 

HUD-Symbology and behaviour in general is very flaky and not mission capable is what I'd say right now.

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The TGP for me has been an exercise in frustration. I wish we could jettison it, at least I could throw it at the enemy.

 

However I do use mavericks all the time and just skip the TGP all together, aim each one individually. Works fine except each missile has to be aimed individually. 

 

I have been able to use the TGP for laser guided bombs. If there is a steerpoint near the target, it works just ok. If there isn't, you have to currently use snowplow mode and it is really buggy but doable.

 

If the target is moving(like a sub) i find the gbu's miss even though the laser is right on the sub. If the target is static it works, but mavericks and tgp handoff, i gave up a while ago.

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7 minutes ago, PicklePicklePickle said:

The TGP for me has been an exercise in frustration. I wish we could jettison it, at least I could throw it at the enemy.

 

However I do use mavericks all the time and just skip the TGP all together, aim each one individually. Works fine except each missile has to be aimed individually. 

 

I have been able to use the TGP for laser guided bombs. If there is a steerpoint near the target, it works just ok. If there isn't, you have to currently use snowplow mode and it is really buggy but doable.

 

If the target is moving(like a sub) i find the gbu's miss even though the laser is right on the sub. If the target is static it works, but mavericks and tgp handoff, i gave up a while ago.

I don't know if GBUs are designed to hit moving targets.  It could be that the CCRP logic assumes a stationary target, so it releases the bombs assuming they won't need extra energy to maneuver.

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Maverick are just god tier weapons if you are nont engaging sam and you can engage at 10 nm MAX. You can align in ground your maverick with TGP, isn't mandatory , depends of task need, on low thread target i prefer to lock with TGT, lock with maverick boresight and go :D. in 1 strike you can fire 3 mavericks without pain

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In my experience, I found that Mavericks seem to work fine in auto handoff mode if the target is isolated enough. Like a tank in the middle of the desert. However, as as soon as there are more objects around or the contrast between the target and its surroundings isn't very clear, the Maverick will either lock onto the wrong thing or refuse to lock on at all. The weird part is that if the Maverick refuses to lock on, going to the WPN page, TMS down, TMS up to manually lock usually works though. 

 

I have no idea if it's like this in the real jet as well.

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Right now Mav delivery modes are WIP, and the TGP is very much WIP. It'll get better as we get more completed features. It's a pretty cool system when it's working as intended. 

 

Right now it works alright for a single delivery so long as everything goes right and you don't end up in break lock. If you do, things can get janky pretty quick. 

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Another thing I have noticed regarding Mavericks...when you target on the D's themselves without the TGP, the IR works way 'better' and it is possible to pick out 'hot' targets in white.

 

On the TGP, the white hot doesn't really seem to do anything. The black hot works a bit better, but still not as well as aiming the mavericks directly. Hot vehicles just seem to blend into the background.

 

I say 'better' in quotes because while the mavericks are easier to target, I don't really know which one is more realistic. Maybe using the TGP is really that difficult in real life. I have used FLIR systems and they have no trouble picking out hot vehicles so I think the maverick flir is probably a tad closer to reality right now.

 

Just another reason to skip thr tgp right now, while it is finished.

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