MYSE1234 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) Ever wanted more (accurate) blips and bloops in your favourite aircraft? We'll you're in luck my friend. I present my "More accurate Apparat 27" ("MA-APP27" for short) mod. This is my attempt to get more accurate RWR sounds in the Viggen. My goal with this was to get more, and more accurate sounds and sound durations based on each radars actual scan speed and PRF. Each radar I've added/ changed has been researched, unfortunately a lot of them are still classified or just impossible to find the needed data on. In cases where I could not find any data I copied data from a similar radar and and changed it slightly. Sometimes I just did something that felt "right", but tried to stay as close to reality as possible with my very limited radar knowledge. The mod currently have: 8 EWR 29 SAM's 19 ships 34 aircraft 4 AWACS 8 active A-A missiles It also corrects the RWR antenna FOV to be 60deg. The mod does pass IC. DOWNLOAD HERE - v4.9 CombatFlite ELINT library Audio library A "short" video I put together for you to get a sense of the mod. Change log: V4.9: Added new SA10 units (Flap Lid and Tin Shield), and also C-RAM V4.8: Added F-15E. Changed a bunch of signals for units for better accuracy. Added high-pass filter for PRF. V4.7: Fix for SA-10 radar giving constant CW warning, a bunch of other changes (already added to base module) V4.6: Added two new "ambulance" tones - CW and high PRF warning V4.5: Added SON-9 and Mirage F1 V4.4: Added ships the SA asset pack V4.3: Corrected RWR antenna FOV V4.2: Added AN/FPS-117 V4.1: Signal changes to some aircraft and SAMs. CW signal on most SAMs and aircraft for lock V4.0: Added SA-5 TR "Square Pair" V3.2: 11 radar sounds changed, 4 silenced V3.1: Added AIM-54, fixed 19J6, added NASAMS V3: 30 new radars modelled. Read post below for details V2.1: Small fix to the Flanker and Fulcrum V2: New "ambulance tone" V1: Release Edited October 19, 2023 by MYSE1234 20 4 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Amazing work! CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Thanks. VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants -- this is how I fly. We do not fly at treetop height, we fly between trees(TM) YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA My simple missions: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/284071-vr-flight-guy-in-pj-pants-simple-missions/ NSRI - National Strategy Research Institution, a fictional organisation based on wordplay of Strategic Naval Research Institution (SNRI), a fictional institution appears in Mobile Suit Gundam UC timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar79 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Nice work! Have to try that. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Especially that part with the SA-15 shows how off the original one seems to be as yours matches the frequency of the dish's rotation. You should maybe try getting into contact with Heatblur so this gets some quality improvement officially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoot Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Eldur said: Especially that part with the SA-15 shows how off the original one seems to be as yours matches the frequency of the dish's rotation. You should maybe try getting into contact with Heatblur so this gets some quality improvement officially. I agree, getting something like this included officially would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 A new version has been uploaded, "Version 2". Changes are for the ambulance tone. The ambulance tone, was previously made using a 1000 and 2000Hz tone, alternating every 0,5 second. I have however found a video where I think you can hear it in a JA37. The new ambulance tone has a 2300Hz tone for 0,2 sec, and a 3400Hz for 0,1 sec. It's not quite correct, due to limitations in how the sound is created, but it's very close.. 3 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 Uploaded a fix to the signals for Flanker and Fulcrum radars. I had accidentally missed to update the ambulance tone for them in the last update. Version will be V2.1 1 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) V3 is now out with 30(!) new radars being added to the list. This is because I figured out a way of not using the file that I was previously depending on. This is amazing news, as now I can add pretty much any radar I wish. If I have missed to add a radar (I think I have most radars in-game modelled now), please add a post in this thread with the missing ones. Goal now is to add all radars. Hope you enjoy! New in V3: EWR: 19J6 - Tin shield SAM: Strela 10M3 SA-2 - Fan song HQ-7 LN HQ-7 ACU Rapier LN Rapier - Blindfire Ship: Type 052B Type 052C Type 054A Type 071 Tarawa La Combattante II Pyotr Velikiy Aircraft: AJS37 F-5E-3 F-14A-135 F-14B F-16CM-50 F-86F F-18C Lot 20 JF-17 MiG-21Bis MiG-19P MiG-23MLD MiG-25PD M2000-5 M2000C AWACS: KJ-2000 A-A missile: SD-10 AIM-120C Edited July 10, 2021 by MYSE1234 3 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoot Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 is it still the case that it doesn't apply to player aircraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, LazyBoot said: is it still the case that it doesn't apply to player aircraft? I am 99,9% sure that this is no longer the case, as I now can add the correct aircraft type/versions. Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoot Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 V3.1 is out with some new and fixed things. Fixed 19J6 - broke with latest patch Added NASAMS search radar Added AIM-54 family A Mk47 C Mk47 C Mk60 1 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarDa Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I love this! Do you have any sources for these? Are you planning on adding more systems? Would you mind if we incorporated it into the module itself? 3 DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, RagnarDa said: I love this! Do you have any sources for these? Are you planning on adding more systems? Would you mind if we incorporated it into the module itself? Thank you! Can't but the same about your Viggen. I do indeed. Unfortunately, but expectedly, some (read "a lot") of data on the radars in-game is classified or very difficult to find. As such, there has been a fair amount of just guessing/guesstimating. The end result of that is that the older cold war stuff is what is most accurate in the mod, as there is a lot more data available on those systems. Here are the sites that I used the most: https://www.radartutorial.eu/ https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/links-ground.htm http://www.ausairpower.net/index.html For older MiG's I found this. I do have one update coming soon™ (later today), with an even more realistic version where the radars that are outside the APP27 spectrum (2GHz-25GHz) will be removed for those that want it. The plan is to add new things as the come, like with the NASAMS the other day. I currently do not have anything new planned for the mod, unless the ability to add multiple radars to a unit becomes a possibility. Like with ships that have >1 radar on it, then it would have some work to do. Absolutely not, it would be and honor to have it added. Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) Version 3.2 Removed all radars outside the RWR working range! Download link on first post. 55G6 Silenced PPRU-1M Sborka Silenced P19 Silenced NASAMS - “AN/MPQ-64F1” PRF to 1600Hz Dwell time to 0,1sec Rapiere LN Ambulance tone for search HQ-7 Search PRF to 3600 SA-2 “Fan Song” Lock PRF from 2500Hz, to 2900Hz SA-11 “Fire dome” Scan time to 20sec Added scan area 120° (+-60°) Carrier freq to X-band - 8GHz Search PRF to 2400Hz SA-11 “Snow Drift” PRF to 800Hz, from ambulance tone SA-6 “Straight Flush” Lock PRF to 2000, same as search. Was ambulance tone SA-15 Search PRF to 4800, was 2000 SA-13 Silenced 64N6E “Big Bird” Search PRF to 200 Carrier freq to 2,9GHz 30N6E “Flap Lid” Lock PRF to 500 Roland Lock PRF to 5000 Edited September 3, 2021 by MYSE1234 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Version 4.0 NOTE: This mod now breaks IC Added SA-5 "Square Pair" illumination radar Search - 500Hz, on 0,1 and off 0,2 seconds Track - ambulance tone Added angle limitations to illumination radars to reduce the chance of getting a stray lock tone. It works to some extent but it's unfortunately not perfect for whatever reason Edited September 22, 2021 by MYSE1234 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoot Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, MYSE1234 said: Version 4.0 NOTE: This mod now breaks IC Maybe you could add it to the list in https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/282040-custom-cmds-lua-now-breaking-ic/ and hope ED will allow it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, LazyBoot said: Maybe you could add it to the list in https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/282040-custom-cmds-lua-now-breaking-ic/ and hope ED will allow it Thanks for posting that thread! I'll definitely do so. Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heillon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 @RagnarDa possible for you guys to weigh in to ED on this? it's hard to go back to default ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondro1911 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Hey! Your mods are amazing and especially this one. I would like to ask if it would be too much of a burden for you to do list of radar emitters for easy identification after ELINT run with U22/A ECM pod. I'm trying to orient myself inside .lua file but I am having trouble to identifying the different SAM systems. Many thanks for your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 11 hours ago, ondro1911 said: Hey! Your mods are amazing and especially this one. I would like to ask if it would be too much of a burden for you to do list of radar emitters for easy identification after ELINT run with U22/A ECM pod. I'm trying to orient myself inside .lua file but I am having trouble to identifying the different SAM systems. Many thanks for your answer. Thank you for your kind words. I have updated the OP with two new links. One for a CombatFlite ELINT library, and one for a spreadsheet. I hope this will help with your future ELINT missions. CombatFlite ELINT library Google Sheet with all radar data 1 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hextopia Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Is this mod fully integrated into the base game now? I seem to remember reading an update saying that in patch notes over the past couple months and just wanted to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 37 minutes ago, Hextopia said: Is this mod fully integrated into the base game now? I seem to remember reading an update saying that in patch notes over the past couple months and just wanted to verify. It has indeed been integrated into the module since a few updates. 2 1 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) Version 4.1 Most SAM’s and aircraft now give a CW signal when the aircraft is locked Changed the sound for a single “hit” of a CW radar to be twice as long; Instead of a single “diddle” it’s now a “diddle-diddle” 19J6 - Tin Shield PRF to 800Hz, to more accurately model the long range mode Rapier Search PRF to 3800Hz F-86 Search and track to have a 0,1 rest period SA-15 Search PRF to 1400Hz MiG-17 More realistic scan MiG-21 More realistic scan Edited March 15, 2022 by MYSE1234 1 1 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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