dorianR666 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 i have seen these too a few times since 2.7 CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Wow! It seems bugs do like poetry. Their color reminds me of the blue fog bug. Was there fog in your mission? Edited May 21, 2021 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterICX Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Flappie said: Wow! It seems bugs do like poetry. Their color reminds me of the blue fog bug. Was there fog in your mission? It was a MP mission, I've asked the server admin if he remembered but he said he didn't manually added fog he just chose a preset. All I can tell about that it was one with 2 layers of clouds at different altitudes. I did upload cutted clips of that screencap perhaps it helps giving you an idea.(excuse my fat fingers wasting an aim9) : You see green dots happen around 22-25sec for a brief sec. Edited May 21, 2021 by HunterICX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) i found it in one of my vids on YT, more than month ago. it happens only when i rotate camera very fast, but rarely. though seems to be a different bug than what this thread talks about, so we better not go offtopic. if you know how to replicate it, please make a new thread about it. i will try to make a track too. Edited May 21, 2021 by dorianR666 CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosterfeet Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I'm seeing occasional small black boxes too. Radeon RX5600xt, Ryzen 5 3600. Driver version 21.4.1 dcs.log Ryzen 5 3600, Radeon RX 5600 XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithronwise Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Hi aviators, I updated from 2.5.6 to 2.7.1 this weekend and I am impressed of the look and feel of this new DCS World version. It feels much smoother than 2.5.6, even with a slightly lower frame rate. Unfortunately I also have these graphic glitches with activated cloud presets. Without a cloud preset I don't face this issue. Here is a video of the track (by the way the clouds are still jittering, see from 1:57 min): The three pictures are taken from this video (00:56 min., 1:02 min., 2:21 min.): Here are my graphics settings in DCS: I also have an AMD card (Sapphire 5700 XT Nitro+ SE). Here is the dcs.log: dcs.log ... and the trackfile: F-18C Test Graphic glitch Cloud jittering NTTR.trk Best regards, Rene ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming, AMD Ryzen 3800X, 64 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000, ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 6800 XT, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 250 GB (OS), Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 1 TB (DCS World), Gigabyte G27QC Gaming Monitor, DelanClip Gamer, WINWING F-16EX Metal Flightstick with Orion2 Joystick Base, WINWING F-15EX II Metal Throttle with Orion2 Throttle Base, WINWING PTO 2 Take Off Panel, VIRPIL Controls Ace Flight Pedals, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Pack, Windows 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Thanks for the track and video. I still cannot reproduce this issue (and I'm NVIDIA powered). I'll ask the closed beta team. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower793 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I haven't noticed this in any of my testing - I am on an nVidia card Windows 11 Home ¦ Z790 AORUS Elite AX motherboard ¦ i7-13700K ¦ 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 memory @ 5600MHz ¦ Samsung 990 Pro 1TB SSD for OS, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD for DCS ¦ MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB ¦ Virpil WarBRD base with VFX grip, Thrustmaster A10c and F/A-18 grips ¦ VKB Gunfighter Mk4 and MCG Pro ¦ Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle ¦ VKB STECS Throttle ¦ Virpil TCS rotor base with Shark and AH-64D grips ¦ MFG Crosswinds ¦ Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box ¦ Pimax Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 What amazes me is that two NVIDIA equiped users reported this as well: 1, 2. Maybe if we can find why they have the issue and we don't, it would help us find what's happening for AMD users as well. @Mith86Arg@G.J.S Can you please attach your dxdiag log (howto) as well as your dcs.log file? ( C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS...\Logs\dcs.log - may appear as "dcs" ) Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I see these black objects too, in VR. They are flashing for just a single frame or so though, and only at a few per hour, so not very frequent. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower793 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 OK - will have a more focussed look for this next time I am flying - most effort recently has been focussed on identifying the cause of crashes so haven't necessarily been flying for long enough (max 20 minutes) in any particular flight. @Knock-Knockare there any particular missions you have been flying to see this, or is it random? Windows 11 Home ¦ Z790 AORUS Elite AX motherboard ¦ i7-13700K ¦ 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 memory @ 5600MHz ¦ Samsung 990 Pro 1TB SSD for OS, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD for DCS ¦ MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB ¦ Virpil WarBRD base with VFX grip, Thrustmaster A10c and F/A-18 grips ¦ VKB Gunfighter Mk4 and MCG Pro ¦ Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle ¦ VKB STECS Throttle ¦ Virpil TCS rotor base with Shark and AH-64D grips ¦ MFG Crosswinds ¦ Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box ¦ Pimax Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 @hornblower793I need to keep an eye on that. I think random, and I cant say if its limited to a given cloud preset, or cloud preset type, or time of day, or cloud preset + time of day etc. I'll keep a lookout. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mith86Arg Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Flappie said: What amazes me is that two NVIDIA equiped users reported this as well: 1, 2. Maybe if we can find why they have the issue and we don't, it would help us find what's happening for AMD users as well. @Mith86Arg@G.J.S Can you please attach your dxdiag log (howto) as well as your dcs.log file? ( C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS...\Logs\dcs.log - may appear as "dcs" ) Never saw those little artifacts again honestly, but i'll remember your request and report back any news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.J.S Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Flappie said: What amazes me is that two NVIDIA equiped users reported this as well: 1, 2. Maybe if we can find why they have the issue and we don't, it would help us find what's happening for AMD users as well. @Mith86Arg@G.J.S Can you please attach your dxdiag log (howto) as well as your dcs.log file? ( C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS...\Logs\dcs.log - may appear as "dcs" ) I can when I next run DCS, but it won’t be for a little while. As Mith86Arg has said, I very rarely see them now also, in fact not seen one the last two weeks - maybe more. And going by the screen grabs shown here, what I saw was NOT that bad, maybe one or two black bits in a few flights. That’s what made me react like a bird strike. Very sporadic, and lately non existent. Edited June 7, 2021 by G.J.S 1 Alien desktop PC, Intel i7-8700 CPU@3.20GHz 6 Core, Nvidia GTX 1070, 16GB RAM. TM Warthog stick and Throttles. Saitek ProFlight pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 OK, many thanks for your fast feedback, guys. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wali763 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Hi. Im having this problem too. Its not big or really annoying, but still its there. I upgraded to a AMD 6700XT just around the release of 2.7 and with that it started for me. But it was only occasional, I maybe saw it 5-10 times in 20-30 hrs. But the Tomcat-IA-mission "Normandy-DissimilarAircombat Training", that I recently flew a few times seems quite sensitive to this problem, since in that mission the glitches happen quite often, maybe even every second mission or so. Sometimes, they are black, but also colorful and the shape also changes. I had dots and I had objects, that looked like someone had scribbled a few letter over each other. As I said above, just reporting. Right now, I dont have a problem with that and am just happy, that its probably DCS and not my GPU, that in other games worked flawlessly up to now. As always: latest OpenBetaDCS with latest Windows (21H1; auto pagefile), no mods (not even SRS or Tacview) and no OC or UV on CPU or GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBee Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) Hi all Now I can see that most of you guys are using AMD graphic cards. Would you please try to run this track file with SSAO on and off and see whether you can reproduce the issue regarding black spots? Link to video: https://streamable.com/kcg6fw Please report your findings in this thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/272182-syrian-map-2d-graphic-bug-in-dcs-2716430-open-beta/?tab=comments#comment-4687540 So, we don’t mix issues. Br NBee BlackSpots.trk Edited June 10, 2021 by NBee Ad link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 3:03 AM, HunterICX said: Also I spotted this in one of the recordings when at a certain angle in a dogfight: hi i have made a new thread for this bug feel free to add information if you know something more CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithronwise Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) On 6/10/2021 at 12:01 PM, NBee said: Would you please try to run this track file with SSAO on and off and see whether you can reproduce the issue regarding black spots? I already tested it with my track file before I posted my video because I had the same suspicion. But the black spots are appearing no matter SSAO is on or off. EDIT: I have to correct myself: Your issue (black flickering spots along the bridge) happens only with SSAO = On (at least on my system), I will post this result also in your thread The issue described in this thread (short black spots in the sky) happens with SSAO = On and SSAO = Off (at least on my system) Edited June 12, 2021 by Ithronwise ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming, AMD Ryzen 3800X, 64 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000, ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 6800 XT, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 250 GB (OS), Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 1 TB (DCS World), Gigabyte G27QC Gaming Monitor, DelanClip Gamer, WINWING F-16EX Metal Flightstick with Orion2 Joystick Base, WINWING F-15EX II Metal Throttle with Orion2 Throttle Base, WINWING PTO 2 Take Off Panel, VIRPIL Controls Ace Flight Pedals, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Pack, Windows 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wali763 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) On 6/10/2021 at 12:01 PM, NBee said: Hi all Now I can see that most of you guys are using AMD graphic cards. Would you please try to run this track file with SSAO on and off and see whether you can reproduce the issue regarding black spots? Link to video: https://streamable.com/kcg6fw Please report your findings in this thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/272182-syrian-map-2d-graphic-bug-in-dcs-2716430-open-beta/?tab=comments#comment-4687540 So, we don’t mix issues. Br NBee BlackSpots.trk 655.2 kB · 1 download Hi. I also had this problem with SSAO on, so I turned it off. But I had it in the F-86- or L-39-cockpit. Posted it here. Edited June 12, 2021 by Wali763 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 15, 2021 ED Team Share Posted June 15, 2021 this has already been reported thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Has somebody ever tried to reset the AMD GPU settings to get rid of this bug? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benom8 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) Just to add to the folklore on this, I was getting this issue sporadically (and only one black poly at a time) on my 1660S. Incidentally I was using an AMD 280X on this system previously. I haven't noticed these for the last week or so after I: Updated the drivers, cleared NVidia shader cache, cleared the DCS shader caches, repaired DCS, and cleared the DirectX shader cache. Fingers crossed they're gone. I underline the last step because I don't see it mentioned here yet, and maybe there was something lurking there from my old card. Edited June 28, 2021 by Benom8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Thanks for your feedabck. Can you please explain how you cleared the DirectX shader cache? I didn't even know there was one. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benom8 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I used Disk Cleanup for this (e.g. get to this via Right-click the drive -> Properties -> Disk Cleanup). There's a checkbox for deleting DirectX shaders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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