resolved 2.7.0.4625 Open Beta crash at second mission load

[Bounty_V]

Started encountering this issue today. Hopefully they're able to find a fix. I'm on all AMD hardware, and a Valve Index. 

[petsild]

All released bata 2.7 crashes CTD too often.

Drivers are up to date, fixed without mods.

 

- log.set_output

dcs.log-20210507-124958.zip dcs.log-20210507-144920.zip dcs.log-20210507-192122.zip

[craycobra]

Only work around for the moment: Install Stable 2.5 again. None of those work arounds mentioned on 18 (!) pages before did work for me. Independently of the game mode used the game crashes on the second flight. I have observed it so far on those modes and after hitting in debriefing fly again or pressing LShift+R in the mission:

• Instant action
• Fast mission
• Mission (SP/MP)
• Campaigns (Rising Squall checkpoint feature is currently useless)

Even a full re-install, with mods or w/o mods, plus all the tipps mentioned before. Never had any issues with DCS World betas before 2.7. ED, please stop any work on new features and bring this piece of scrap to a level of maturity that deserves being called "beta".

[Flia]

craycobra : Never had any issues with DCS World betas before 2.7. ED, please stop any work on new features and bring this piece of scrap to a level of maturity that deserves being called "beta".

 

Yes i agree completly. This issue is really big. I also never had such a problems in DCS or any atoher game or sim installed on my PC.  Please ED put more testers and prorammers to this problem. This bug is wiith uz almost a 1 Month. This is inexcusably. Make this problem to absolute priority for  ED team plase! 

Edited May 8, 2021 by Flia

[BIGNEWY]

4 minutes ago, Flia said:

craycobra : Never had any issues with DCS World betas before 2.7. ED, please stop any work on new features and bring this piece of scrap to a level of maturity that deserves being called "beta".

 

Yes i agree completly. This issue is really big. I also never had such a problems in DCS or any atoher game or sim installed on my PC.  Please ED put more testers and prorammers to this problem. This bug is wiith uz almost a 1 Month. This is inexcusably. Make this problem to absolute priority for  ED team plase! 

 

 

The team are investigating, its an unusual crash, it did not reproduce for us in testing which makes it even harder to pin down. Your reports and comments will help us get to the bottom of it. 

Thanks

[Flia]

48 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

 

The team are investigating, its an unusual crash, it did not reproduce for us in testing which makes it even harder to pin down. Your reports and comments will help us get to the bottom of it. 

Thanks

[Flappie]

9 hours ago, Mike77 said:

Thank you very VERY much for the help!  Greatly appreciated!  Updated the drivers this morning to 466.27 using DDU and all is well.  I spent the better part of today flying, and was in and out of the Mission Editor a whole lot.  No crashes at all... not one!

...

Out of curiosity, is there any info around on interpreting the DCS log files?  I'm fascinated by it, but don't know where to start.

You're welcome ! Glad your got rid of your crashes (precision for the others: this was NOT the second mission loading crash bug).

 

I've been thinking about creating a thread to explain how to read the dcs.log file. I'll see what I can do.

 

 

4 hours ago, petsild said:

All released bata 2.7 crashes CTD too often.

Drivers are up to date, fixed without mods.

 

- log.set_output

dcs.log-20210507-124958.zip 202.75 kB · 2 downloads dcs.log-20210507-144920.zip 700.36 kB · 1 download dcs.log-20210507-192122.zip 188.91 kB · 1 download

You're in the right thread. You're having the second mission loading crash bug.

[Ironhand]

@Flappie, when is the metashaders folder in use with 2.7? I have checked it before, during, and after flights and never seen it populated.

[craycobra]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb BIGNEWY:

 

The team are investigating, its an unusual crash, it did not reproduce for us in testing which makes it even harder to pin down. Your reports and comments will help us get to the bottom of it. 

Thanks

Thank you, good to know. I hope you take the feedback and introduce changes to your development environment like the test systems and their setup also the test scope before release. Not being able to reproduce is from my point of view not understandable since everybody of my friends has this behaviour.

[Flappie]

30 minutes ago, Ironhand said:

@Flappie, when is the metashaders folder in use with 2.7? I have checked it before, during, and after flights and never seen it populated.

You're right, it seems they are not produced anymore, at least in the "metashaders2" folder.

[Dgpm]

34 minutes ago, Ironhand said:

@Flappie, when is the metashaders folder in use with 2.7? I have checked it before, during, and after flights and never seen it populated.

It was populated during the game until the last update. I don’t know why it has changed. I’ve solved the crashes deleting this folder, the fxo and repairing, now I’m lost.

 

Same kind of crashes, problems with DX11, “shaders” folder. But no way to fix them.

[Ironhand]

51 minutes ago, Flappie said:

You're right, it seems they are not produced anymore, at least in the "metashaders2" folder.

 

Not anywhere else in the Saved Games or Temp folder either that I can see. They must be loaded into memory and dumped after each session.

51 minutes ago, Dgpm said:

It was populated during the game until the last update...

 

The little update after 2.7?

[haze1]

It crashes when I try to load a mission for the second time

dcs.log-20210508-130116.zip

[Scotch75]

 
The little update after 2.7?

Could this possibly be contibuting to the crashes? Seems a fairly drastic change in the software/coding.

Cheers!


Edit: The part about metahaders2 possibly being written to temp then dumped.


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[Donut]

3 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

 

The team are investigating, its an unusual crash, it did not reproduce for us in testing which makes it even harder to pin down. Your reports and comments will help us get to the bottom of it. 

Thanks

Not reproducible?!  It is so widespread as can be seen on the forum and everyone I personally know is also having constant crashes.  I get a crash after every second mission load.  I have tried all the potential fixes, Windows 10 and Nvidia both are fully updated, etc.  2.7 did something, and whatever version you are testing might not be what you released to us.  
 

This has become a show stopping bug, maybe the biggest and most serious bug in my 6 years with DCS.  Hopefully it is pinned down and fixed ASAP.  

[Ironhand]

26 minutes ago, Scotch75 said:

Could this possibly be contibuting to the crashes? Seems a fairly drastic change in the software/coding.

Cheers!


Edit: The part about metahaders2 possibly being written to temp then dumped.


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That’s what I was wondering. But, as far as I can tell, they aren’t being saved anywhere. Just loaded directly into memory and, then, dumped.

[Rosebud47]

Had the same since the recent update patch for 2.7. Lots of CTD in any second mission loading.

 

After deleting the the .fxo and .meta2 files of following main DCS Open beta folder, the CTD are gone and so far didn´t happen anymore:

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/metacache/dcs/

 

and

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/shadercache/

 

In the "../metacache/dcs/" -folder there were *.meta2 files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *meta2 files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

In the "../shadercache/" -folder there were *.fxo files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *.fxo files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

I´ve done this for every map ( caucasus, NTTR, TheChannel, PersianGulf, Normandy ) in the "../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/" - folder.

 

Not sure if it is coincident or something different related to the problem, but since deleted the .fxo and .meta2 files remaining there from the original 2.7 update, I had no more CTD.

Edited May 8, 2021 by Rosebud47

[Flia]

16 minutes ago, Rosebud47 said:

Had the same since the recent update patch for 2.7. Lots of CTD in any second mission loading.

 

After deleting the the .fxo and .meta2 files of following main DCS Open beta folder, the CTD are gone and so far didn´t happen anymore:

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/metacache/dcs/

 

and

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/shadercache/

 

In the "../metacache/dcs/" -folder there were *.meta2 files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *meta2 files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

In the "../shadercache/" -folder there were *.fxo files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *.fxo files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

I´ve done this for every map ( caucasus, NTTR, TheChannel, PersianGulf, Normandy ) in the "../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/" - folder.

 

Not sure if it is coincident or something different related to the problem, but since deleted the .fxo and .meta2 files remaining there from the original 2.7 update, I had no more CTD.

 

Nice find. Im going to test it right now

[haze1]

25 minutes ago, Rosebud47 said:

Had the same since the recent update patch for 2.7. Lots of CTD in any second mission loading.

 

After deleting the the .fxo and .meta2 files of following main DCS Open beta folder, the CTD are gone and so far didn´t happen anymore:

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/metacache/dcs/

 

and

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/shadercache/

 

In the "../metacache/dcs/" -folder there were *.meta2 files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *meta2 files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

In the "../shadercache/" -folder there were *.fxo files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *.fxo files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

I´ve done this for every map ( caucasus, NTTR, TheChannel, PersianGulf, Normandy ) in the "../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/" - folder.

 

Not sure if it is coincident or something different related to the problem, but since deleted the .fxo and .meta2 files remaining there from the original 2.7 update, I had no more CTD.

 

Thank you, it works!

[m005106]

26 minutes ago, Rosebud47 said:

Had the same since the recent update patch for 2.7. Lots of CTD in any second mission loading.

 

After deleting the the .fxo and .meta2 files of following main DCS Open beta folder, the CTD are gone and so far didn´t happen anymore:

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/metacache/dcs/

 

and

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/shadercache/

 

In the "../metacache/dcs/" -folder there were *.meta2 files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *meta2 files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

In the "../shadercache/" -folder there were *.fxo files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *.fxo files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

I´ve done this for every map ( caucasus, NTTR, TheChannel, PersianGulf, Normandy ) in the "../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/" - folder.

 

Not sure if it is coincident or something different related to the problem, but since deleted the .fxo and .meta2 files remaining there from the original 2.7 update, I had no more CTD.

 

Didn't work for me. DCS froze during mission loading screen, didn't let me alt+shf+del nor alt+tab. hard reset.

[petsild]

37 minutes ago, Rosebud47 said:

Had the same since the recent update patch for 2.7. Lots of CTD in any second mission loading.

 

After deleting the the .fxo and .meta2 files of following main DCS Open beta folder, the CTD are gone and so far didn´t happen anymore:

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/metacache/dcs/

 

and

 

../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/Normandy/misc/shadercache/

 

In the "../metacache/dcs/" -folder there were *.meta2 files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *meta2 files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

In the "../shadercache/" -folder there were *.fxo files dated 17.04.2021, which is the date I´ve run after the big 2.7 update for first time. Now, after deleting these *.fxo files, they were not created again and the folder stays empty.

 

I´ve done this for every map ( caucasus, NTTR, TheChannel, PersianGulf, Normandy ) in the "../DCSWorldOpenBeta/Mods/terrains/" - folder.

 

Not sure if it is coincident or something different related to the problem, but since deleted the .fxo and .meta2 files remaining there from the original 2.7 update, I had no more CTD.

 

I cleared the metacache / shadercache a second attempt again CTD.

 

Now folder saved games of the Metashaders2 is working again as before.

Edited May 8, 2021 by petsild

[Flia]

Tested with deleted metacache folder and shadercache folders udner terrain a i have crash like before. Unfortunately

[Dgpm]

1 hour ago, Ironhand said:

 

Not anywhere else in the Saved Games or Temp folder either that I can see. They must be loaded into memory and dumped after each session.

 

The little update after 2.7?

Yes, this week little update.

[Burt]

Just a question. Okay so we have to be signed in to DCS to play the sim. So is this considered a server? Just curious.

 

Edited May 8, 2021 by Burt

[the_jovian]

For whatever reason, the creashes have returned with a vengeance. None of the workarounds seem to work now.