zildac Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taz1004 said: I seem to be getting better quality with SMAA. AA quality is quite good but without getting as blurry as FXAA. Still testing performance. You can just drop these two files in /bin/reshade-shaders/Shaders/ and choose SMAA in Home menu. SMAA.fx 9.26 kB · 8 downloads SMAA.fxh 56.33 kB · 8 downloads You can't use both FXAA and SMAA. FXAA will override SMAA. Thanks @Taz1004 There goes my Sunday Update: Seems to add around 1ms to my GPU Frametime (just sitting on Caucasus ready on the ramp) but looks better than FXAA to my old eyes. Edited May 15, 2021 by zildac 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraszus Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taz1004 said: I seem to be getting better quality with SMAA. AA quality is quite good but without getting as blurry as FXAA. Still testing performance. You can just drop these two files in /bin/reshade-shaders/Shaders/ and choose SMAA in Home menu. SMAA.fx 9.26 kB · 15 downloads SMAA.fxh 56.33 kB · 13 downloads You can't use both FXAA and SMAA. FXAA will override SMAA. Won't compile for me... 21:07:00:774 [18200] | INFO | Running on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 21:07:00:781 [18200] | INFO | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000001D58D8E5CB0. 21:07:04:301 [18200] | INFO | Running on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 21:07:04:302 [18200] | INFO | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000001D5E5164620. 21:07:04:310 [19680] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:04:311 [19684] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:04:335 [19700] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:04:335 [19696] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:04:422 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:07:651 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:32:866 [20336] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:32:867 [20332] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:32:870 [20340] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:32:870 [20344] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:32:915 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:32:943 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:41:943 [20428] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:41:943 [20424] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:41:946 [20432] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:41:947 [20436] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:41:992 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:42:020 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:09:54:533 [18200] | INFO | Redirecting VR_ShutdownInternal() ... 21:09:54:533 [18200] | INFO | Destroyed runtime environment on runtime 000001D5E5164620. 21:09:54:592 [18200] | INFO | Redirecting IDXGISwapChain::SetFullscreenState(this = 000001D58D8C2FF0, Fullscreen = FALSE, pTarget = 0000000000000000) ... 21:09:54:592 [18200] | INFO | Destroyed runtime environment on runtime 000001D58D8E5CB0. 21:09:54:592 [18200] | WARN | Reference count for IDXGIDevice1 object 000001D58835FE00 (000001D58B9E7068) is inconsistent (13). 21:09:54:593 [18200] | WARN | Reference count for ID3D11Device0 object 000001D58DB20840 (000001D58B9E7858) is inconsistent (12). 21:09:54:969 [18200] | INFO | Exiting ... 21:09:54:969 [18200] | INFO | Uninstalling 410 hook(s) ... 21:09:54:998 [18200] | WARN | Failed to uninstall hook for IVRCompositor::Submit with status code 10. 21:09:56:048 [18200] | INFO | Finished exiting. Edited May 15, 2021 by kraszus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sr. said: Nice. My system (and perception) prefer the SMAA. And unless fpsVR is lying to me, I'm seeing between 1-1.2 GPU frametime improvement with it enable. FXAA seems darken more to "hide" the aliasing. Not as much but I am also getting better performance than FXAA. About 0.2ms. And does look better. There are lots of filters to play with. FakeHDR and LumaSharpen also nice visual improvement but debating whether the performance is worth it. About 1ms on my system. Maybe not as much on higher end systems. Also played with depth based effects such as AO and SSR but anything to do with depth doesn't seem to be working in VR. Maybe because VR is already using depth buffer. 13 minutes ago, kraszus said: Won't compile for me... 21:07:00:774 [18200] | INFO | Running on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 21:07:00:781 [18200] | INFO | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000001D58D8E5CB0. 21:07:04:301 [18200] | INFO | Running on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 21:07:04:302 [18200] | INFO | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000001D5E5164620. 21:07:04:310 [19680] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:04:311 [19684] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:04:335 [19700] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:04:335 [19696] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:04:422 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:07:651 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:32:866 [20336] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:32:867 [20332] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:32:870 [20340] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:32:870 [20344] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:32:915 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:32:943 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:41:943 [20428] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:41:943 [20424] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:41:946 [20432] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:41:947 [20436] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:41:992 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:42:020 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:09:54:533 [18200] | INFO | Redirecting VR_ShutdownInternal() ... 21:09:54:533 [18200] | INFO | Destroyed runtime environment on runtime 000001D5E5164620. 21:09:54:592 [18200] | INFO | Redirecting IDXGISwapChain::SetFullscreenState(this = 000001D58D8C2FF0, Fullscreen = FALSE, pTarget = 0000000000000000) ... 21:09:54:592 [18200] | INFO | Destroyed runtime environment on runtime 000001D58D8E5CB0. 21:09:54:592 [18200] | WARN | Reference count for IDXGIDevice1 object 000001D58835FE00 (000001D58B9E7068) is inconsistent (13). 21:09:54:593 [18200] | WARN | Reference count for ID3D11Device0 object 000001D58DB20840 (000001D58B9E7858) is inconsistent (12). 21:09:54:969 [18200] | INFO | Exiting ... 21:09:54:969 [18200] | INFO | Uninstalling 410 hook(s) ... 21:09:54:998 [18200] | WARN | Failed to uninstall hook for IVRCompositor::Submit with status code 10. 21:09:56:048 [18200] | INFO | Finished exiting. Did you install the previous one I posted first? This version allows other ReShade filters to work. Edited May 15, 2021 by Taz1004 1 1 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, kraszus said: Won't compile for me... 21:07:00:774 [18200] | INFO | Running on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 21:07:00:781 [18200] | INFO | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000001D58D8E5CB0. 21:07:04:301 [18200] | INFO | Running on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 21:07:04:302 [18200] | INFO | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000001D5E5164620. 21:07:04:310 [19680] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:04:311 [19684] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:04:335 [19700] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:04:335 [19696] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:04:422 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:07:651 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:32:866 [20336] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:32:867 [20332] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:32:870 [20340] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:32:870 [20344] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:32:915 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:32:943 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:41:943 [20428] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:41:943 [20424] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:41:946 [20432] | ERROR | Failed to load "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx": D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\SMAA.fx(23, 1): preprocessor error: could not open included file 'D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\ReShadeUI.fxh' 21:07:41:947 [20436] | INFO | Successfully loaded "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\reshade-shaders\Shaders\VR_CAS_Color.fx". 21:07:41:992 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:07:42:020 [18200] | INFO | Loading image files for textures ... 21:09:54:533 [18200] | INFO | Redirecting VR_ShutdownInternal() ... 21:09:54:533 [18200] | INFO | Destroyed runtime environment on runtime 000001D5E5164620. 21:09:54:592 [18200] | INFO | Redirecting IDXGISwapChain::SetFullscreenState(this = 000001D58D8C2FF0, Fullscreen = FALSE, pTarget = 0000000000000000) ... 21:09:54:592 [18200] | INFO | Destroyed runtime environment on runtime 000001D58D8E5CB0. 21:09:54:592 [18200] | WARN | Reference count for IDXGIDevice1 object 000001D58835FE00 (000001D58B9E7068) is inconsistent (13). 21:09:54:593 [18200] | WARN | Reference count for ID3D11Device0 object 000001D58DB20840 (000001D58B9E7858) is inconsistent (12). 21:09:54:969 [18200] | INFO | Exiting ... 21:09:54:969 [18200] | INFO | Uninstalling 410 hook(s) ... 21:09:54:998 [18200] | WARN | Failed to uninstall hook for IVRCompositor::Submit with status code 10. 21:09:56:048 [18200] | INFO | Finished exiting. Fine here. Do you have a ReShadeUI.fxh in ./reshade-shaders/Shaders ? Did you start with the OVGME ready archive Taz provided fuirther up? Edited May 15, 2021 by zildac 1 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraszus Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Thanks @Taz1004and @zildac. I hadn't downloaded Taz's version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraszus Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Taz1004 said: I seem to be getting better quality with SMAA. AA quality is quite good but without getting as blurry as FXAA. Still testing performance. You can just drop these two files in /bin/reshade-shaders/Shaders/ and choose SMAA in Home menu. SMAA.fx 9.26 kB · 15 downloads SMAA.fxh 56.33 kB · 13 downloads You can't use both FXAA and SMAA. FXAA will override SMAA. Edit: You need to install the Mod version I posted earlier before applying SMAA and other ReShade filters. VR Sharpen FXAA I'm guessing I should should disable MSAA in DCS options in order to apply your SMAA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kraszus said: I'm guessing I should should disable MSAA in DCS options in order to apply your SMAA? Personally, I didn't. Make sure FXAA is disabled in ReShade and enable SMAA. I left MSAA enabled in DCS. Edited May 15, 2021 by zildac 1 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, kraszus said: I'm guessing I should should disable MSAA in DCS options in order to apply your SMAA? Everyone need to find what works best for them. It really depends on the system and headset. But I am reading somewhere FXAA is better with MSAA and SMAA is better by itself but those opinions are also all over the place. Great thing about ReShade is that you can see the change in real time so test and find out. And share your findings. 2 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) FXAA (fast approximate) is not a very taxing AA algorithm but tends to cause smearing (detects hard edges and smooth them out), not ideal if you need to preserve fine detail such as tiny texts in cockpit. SMAA (subpixel morphological) is a newer gen AA that can preserve fine detail better with less blurriness. MSAA (muti-sampling) is an old standard and more GPU taxing than the other two, but can produce pretty good crisp images. Edited May 16, 2021 by Supmua PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 The effect of the SMAA preset in ReShade is very noticeable in the Game Menus. 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 indeed SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Performance hit of SMAA seems directly related to amount of pixels it anti aliases. And is tied to the sharpening radius setting of the sharpen filter. Below is SMAA with debug filter. And the circle in the middle is the sharpening radius (set to 0.4). I exaggerated it to illustrate but basically, SMAA is doing far more anti aliasing inside that circle. So bigger the radius, more work SMAA has to do. Sharpening radius by itself didn't have big performance impact but coupled with SMAA (or FXAA), its performance characteristics is amplified. So it's important to set that sharpen radius no larger than what you can see. Edited May 16, 2021 by Taz1004 1 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 It may be a silly question but I can only see the SMAA effect on the in game menu text when I start in "VR OFF" mode via Skatezillas tool, if I run up DCS in regular VR mode then the SMAA effect on the menu text is not present in the HMD or in the mirror. Are we sure the SMAA preset is actually working in VR? Or am I missing something here. 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 i only ever see it in the 2d mirror , but its definitely there SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Odd, I'll check again could be my eyes. Given it doesn't seem to affect the in game menus (in the HMD) that would suggest it's not actually working though would it not? 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 the menu option is definitely there for me when in VR, in the 2d mirror SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 the menu option is definitely there for me when in VR, in the 2d mirrorMaybe I'm not explaining very well. . In 2D I can see the SMAA effect on the in game menus, the text is softened and rounded as you'd expect. However I don't see the same effect in the HMD with SMAA enabled. The reshade menu itself is absolutely fine in all scenarios. 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 in game with msaa turned off, check the edge of the canopy rail 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 You could lower your supersampling or resolution to better see if its working or not. Also try with MSAA off if you have it on. It's most obvious when you look at horizontal or vertical line, tilt head slightly, and toggle ReShade on/off with End key. Also try turning on the SMAA debug mode like I did. Real time preview doesn't work if you have ReShade Performance Mode enabled. Even if you turn it off, you have to restart. Enable Performance mode only when you're done tweaking. 1 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Thanks both, I'll have a play. I guess I was expecting to see the same effect on the ingame menus text with SMAA enabled in 2D and in trhe HMD. I only see the text softening in 2D. 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 @Taz1004 sorry for being lazy but, what does performance mode do, makes it go faster I get, but why what's the trade off? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I've been testing this for quite a bit and don't really see any benefits of SMAA if MSAA is on. MSAA 2x, I find, provides superior image quality with minimal shimmering at an acceptable performance cost on my PC. So the only active shader I use right now is VR CAS. 2 PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, speed-of-heat said: @Taz1004 sorry for being lazy but, what does performance mode do, makes it go faster I get, but why what's the trade off? It disables real time adjustments. I get about 0.4-0.5ms extra. Edited May 16, 2021 by Taz1004 1 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 ah awesome thanks for the explanation! SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, Supmua said: I've been testing this for quite a bit and don't really see any benefits of SMAA if MSAA is on. MSAA 2x, I find, provides superior image quality with minimal shimmering at an acceptable performance cost on my PC. So the only active shader I use right now is VR CAS. Really... MSAA 2x is about 3ms higher than SMAA for me. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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