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Would it be possible in the future to add some more Cold War era MANPADS?

 

Namely systems such as:

  • SA-7b "Grail"/9K32M "Strela-2M" - early 70s
  • FIM-43C/D Redeye Block III/IV - late 60s
  • SA-14 "Gremlin"/9K34 "Strela-3" - mid 70s
  • FIM-92A Stinger Basic - early 80s
  • FIM-92B Stinger POST - late 80s
  • Blowpipe - mid 70s
  • RBS 70 Mk.1 - mid 70s
  • Javelin - mid 80s

 

The SA-7b "Grail"/9K32M "Strela-2M" in particular was incredibly prolific, probably the most prolific with absolutely tonnes of operators (both former and current) with a lengthy and rich service life in many conflicts around the world. It's also a staple air defence system for Cold War REDFOR.

 

The FIM-43C/D and FIM-92A are more appropriate Cold War era variants  

 

At the moment we have the following MANPADS:

  • SA-18 "Grouch"/9K38 "Igla" (but using the 9M342 missile of the Igla-S, so really this is just a renamed Igla-S) ~mid 1980s 
  • SA-24 "Grinch"/9K338 "Igla-S" ~mid 2000s
  • FIM-92C Stinger RMP (also used on the M1907 Heavy Avenger and M6(A2?) Linebacker ~late 80s/early 90s

So out of all of them it's only really the Igla that fits the Cold War, only it's just a copied Igla-S with a different name as far as I can tell.


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9 minutes ago, bies said:

Absolutely yes. Each of them would be a great opponent for the Mi-24.

 

Yeah that was my main reason as to why (especially if we get more Soviet variants namely the V) though they're all much more suitable for Cold War stuff. 

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Hind coming, Afghanistan map coming, requesting 80s Stingers... see what you did there 😄

 

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10 hours ago, Desert Fox said:

Hind coming, Afghanistan map coming, requesting 80s Stingers... see what you did there 😄

 

+1

 

I mean, even Cold War in general, and I'm holding out hoping for a Mi-24V somewhere down the line, just given how much of it would be a copy and paste job of the P.

 

And with the Strela-2M, it's quite literally all over the place in basically every conflict since it was introduced.

 

The only real Cold War MANPAD we have is the 9K38 Igla, only DCS being DCS it's just a copy and pasted 9K338 Igla-S - literally using the same missile from what I can see.

 

I'm also hoping that the IR rework (of which IR missiles are a part of) are getting a fidelity increase to their seekers - hopefully meaning that old IRCM systems like Lipa will have some use (which they should against the Strela-2M and Redeye).

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Some of Cold War MANPADS 3D models (Sa-7, Sa-14, Sa-16) has into DCS directories, but missing propper infantry units and rework them (has very old and never implement).

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9 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

I'm also hoping that the IR rework (of which IR missiles are a part of) are getting a fidelity increase to their seekers - hopefully meaning that old IRCM systems like Lipa will have some use (which they should against the Strela-2M and Redeye).

 

Yeah, really hope introduction of accurate CW MANPADS will eventually lead to inclusion of the Lipa. Really the only reason they gave in the interview was "it's not effective against what we got in DCS" (as in "IR SAM in DCS are too advanced").

 

"Yet" i would like to add here 😛

 

13 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

And with the Strela-2M, it's quite literally all over the place in basically every conflict since it was introduced.

 

Argentina had them in the Falklands for example *wink wink theater coming soon*

I'm not 100% sure about that, but i think even ISIS still used them nowadays acquired from buried Mujahedin weapon caches (no source for that, so don't take it as a fact). Which would justify implementing it for modern use too.

Literally everywhere.

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