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I have also uploaded my latest LUA and matching PowerPoint printable layout files for the F-16, Spitfire, and P47.  Layouts are not 100% but a good start for someone that might want to get in and fly.  You can then tweak to your liking and use the PowerPoint layouts to track and use as reference as you make it your own. 

 

Links in my original post have been updated.  I have the links as a public share but I have received a few comments that people have been unable to access the google drive.  I will approve any google share requests if you need to request access in the event you run into issues.  I recommend going the the main archive folder and hitting the "Download All" button, this will grab the entire shared archive folder, lua files, templates etc.


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On 9/2/2021 at 11:26 AM, *Moxie* said:

I have added/updated a new "Full Layout" template as an all in one layout for the TM-50CM3 Throttle that now includes the VKB NXT Gladiator.  I have included the original power point version as well as the PDF version for those who want to edit and change up as needed.

 

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1JMhibRTaaKabvpK2tnRrYnT4dcz50_XP/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=112239411219577180356&rtpof=true&sd=true

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-3F-ckA0QfA6lPXzY95okpmGnaZlYKAx/view?usp=sharing

 

 

 

 

 

Full Layout Master Template.pptx 4.38 MB · 4 downloads

 

That’s the combo I have except mine is the cm2. Same everything minus the detents

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On 8/31/2021 at 11:28 PM, Skwirl865 said:

I would love to see your 16 and 18 profiles. Especially 16 tho

hi Skwirl865

 

Here are my JoystickGremlin profiles in XML and my Virpil config (XML) file for CM2.  

 

(1)

All my DoubleClicks, Macros, and Holds (called Tempos in JoystickGremlin) are configured in JoystickGremlin itself not in the VirpilSoftware so you can see how they work in JoystickGremlin.

 

Remember you need to manually change the GUIDs with a text editor for the JoystickGremlin XML files otherwise your devices won't be recognized.  Probably this is the disadvantage with JoystickGremlin: Profiles are not portable.   But once they are working it's very nice, you can change aircraft, and even make changes to the profile and without even having to exit DCS World: You only need to deactivate the JoystickProfile, make a change or open another profile and activate it.

 

(2)

If you are interested in the VirtualDetent:  I did that with the help of a JoystickGremlin Plugin.  I have carefully calculated the curves for most DCS planes: F-16, FA-18, F-14, FC3, Mirage2K, F-5 and also for other games.

 

You can change on the fly the curves, for example with my FC3 profile by simply changing the Curves parameter in the JoystickGremlin GUI (see the file: _VirtualDetentTemplate Readme-First.jpg)

This are the values you can select from:

"1=Mig-29, 2=Sukhoi, 3=F-15, 4=F-16, 5=FA-18, 6=F-14, 7=F-5, 8=Mirage2K, 9=1:1, 10=PWingman",

 

Once you are ready to play with my Virtual Detents, start Joystick Gremlin and Open the VirtualDetentTemplate.xml

I have that one set to the F-14 and only has the throttle and the virtual detent button, that way I think it would be easier to understand how all of that works together.  You will need to save locally also the VirtualDetentForVirpil.py plugin and make sure the XML is pointing to your own local path where the .py file is referenced.

 

A limitation is that I choose to ditch a left and right throttle, because to be honest I never fly those jets with asynchronous throttle inputs and because in the F-14 I would need more than 8 Axis, so I decided to duplicate the right with the left in Virpil and in JoystickGremlin I am attaching the plugin only to one of the throttles.   Again I don't have any issues with that.  This means that in DCS world you need to map only one axis to the throttle instead of independent left and right throttle axis for the Virtual Device 1.

 

I have had so much fun with these Virtual Detent and how they work that I am not even interested in the CM3 at all.

 

See a video about how they work here 

 

(3)

You might notice on my F-14 JoystickGremlin profile that I have additional or updated functions that I haven't had the time to update on the Graphics Template.  But I suppose you first want to check all of this to see if it makes sense to you and I hope you find it useful and that you can adapt it better to your needs 

 

At first I wanted to add a kneeboard with the graphics template but I have seen that when I don't remember something I just go to JoystickGremlin to see what was what because I added enough comments there to remember so I never had the  need to see kneeboard pages to remember my assignments.

 

Have fun and let me know if I can assist you with something

 

 

 

MyJoystickGremlinAndVirpilThrottleConfigs.zip

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10 hours ago, ralch said:

hi Skwirl865

 

Here are my JoystickGremlin profiles in XML and my Virpil config (XML) file for CM2.  

 

(1)

All my DoubleClicks, Macros, and Holds (called Tempos in JoystickGremlin) are configured in JoystickGremlin itself not in the VirpilSoftware so you can see how they work in JoystickGremlin.

 

Remember you need to manually change the GUIDs with a text editor for the JoystickGremlin XML files otherwise your devices won't be recognized.  Probably this is the disadvantage with JoystickGremlin: Profiles are not portable.   But once they are working it's very nice, you can change aircraft, and even make changes to the profile and without even having to exit DCS World: You only need to deactivate the JoystickProfile, make a change or open another profile and activate it.

 

(2)

If you are interested in the VirtualDetent:  I did that with the help of a JoystickGremlin Plugin.  I have carefully calculated the curves for most DCS planes: F-16, FA-18, F-14, FC3, Mirage2K, F-5 and also for other games.

 

You can change on the fly the curves, for example with my FC3 profile by simply changing the Curves parameter in the JoystickGremlin GUI (see the file: _VirtualDetentTemplate Readme-First.jpg)

This are the values you can select from:

"1=Mig-29, 2=Sukhoi, 3=F-15, 4=F-16, 5=FA-18, 6=F-14, 7=F-5, 8=Mirage2K, 9=1:1, 10=PWingman",

 

Once you are ready to play with my Virtual Detents, start Joystick Gremlin and Open the VirtualDetentTemplate.xml

I have that one set to the F-14 and only has the throttle and the virtual detent button, that way I think it would be easier to understand how all of that works together.  You will need to save locally also the VirtualDetentForVirpil.py plugin and make sure the XML is pointing to your own local path where the .py file is referenced.

 

A limitation is that I choose to ditch a left and right throttle, because to be honest I never fly those jets with asynchronous throttle inputs and because in the F-14 I would need more than 8 Axis, so I decided to duplicate the right with the left in Virpil and in JoystickGremlin I am attaching the plugin only to one of the throttles.   Again I don't have any issues with that.  This means that in DCS world you need to map only one axis to the throttle instead of independent left and right throttle axis for the Virtual Device 1.

 

I have had so much fun with these Virtual Detent and how they work that I am not even interested in the CM3 at all.

 

See a video about how they work here 

 

(3)

You might notice on my F-14 JoystickGremlin profile that I have additional or updated functions that I haven't had the time to update on the Graphics Template.  But I suppose you first want to check all of this to see if it makes sense to you and I hope you find it useful and that you can adapt it better to your needs 

 

At first I wanted to add a kneeboard with the graphics template but I have seen that when I don't remember something I just go to JoystickGremlin to see what was what because I added enough comments there to remember so I never had the  need to see kneeboard pages to remember my assignments.

 

Have fun and let me know if I can assist you with something

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, ralch said:

hi Skwirl865

 

Here are my JoystickGremlin profiles in XML and my Virpil config (XML) file for CM2.  

 

(1)

All my DoubleClicks, Macros, and Holds (called Tempos in JoystickGremlin) are configured in JoystickGremlin itself not in the VirpilSoftware so you can see how they work in JoystickGremlin.

 

Remember you need to manually change the GUIDs with a text editor for the JoystickGremlin XML files otherwise your devices won't be recognized.  Probably this is the disadvantage with JoystickGremlin: Profiles are not portable.   But once they are working it's very nice, you can change aircraft, and even make changes to the profile and without even having to exit DCS World: You only need to deactivate the JoystickProfile, make a change or open another profile and activate it.

 

(2)

If you are interested in the VirtualDetent:  I did that with the help of a JoystickGremlin Plugin.  I have carefully calculated the curves for most DCS planes: F-16, FA-18, F-14, FC3, Mirage2K, F-5 and also for other games.

 

You can change on the fly the curves, for example with my FC3 profile by simply changing the Curves parameter in the JoystickGremlin GUI (see the file: _VirtualDetentTemplate Readme-First.jpg)

This are the values you can select from:

"1=Mig-29, 2=Sukhoi, 3=F-15, 4=F-16, 5=FA-18, 6=F-14, 7=F-5, 8=Mirage2K, 9=1:1, 10=PWingman",

 

Once you are ready to play with my Virtual Detents, start Joystick Gremlin and Open the VirtualDetentTemplate.xml

I have that one set to the F-14 and only has the throttle and the virtual detent button, that way I think it would be easier to understand how all of that works together.  You will need to save locally also the VirtualDetentForVirpil.py plugin and make sure the XML is pointing to your own local path where the .py file is referenced.

 

A limitation is that I choose to ditch a left and right throttle, because to be honest I never fly those jets with asynchronous throttle inputs and because in the F-14 I would need more than 8 Axis, so I decided to duplicate the right with the left in Virpil and in JoystickGremlin I am attaching the plugin only to one of the throttles.   Again I don't have any issues with that.  This means that in DCS world you need to map only one axis to the throttle instead of independent left and right throttle axis for the Virtual Device 1.

 

I have had so much fun with these Virtual Detent and how they work that I am not even interested in the CM3 at all.

 

See a video about how they work here 

 

(3)

You might notice on my F-14 JoystickGremlin profile that I have additional or updated functions that I haven't had the time to update on the Graphics Template.  But I suppose you first want to check all of this to see if it makes sense to you and I hope you find it useful and that you can adapt it better to your needs 

 

At first I wanted to add a kneeboard with the graphics template but I have seen that when I don't remember something I just go to JoystickGremlin to see what was what because I added enough comments there to remember so I never had the  need to see kneeboard pages to remember my assignments.

 

Have fun and let me know if I can assist you with something

 

 

 

MyJoystickGremlinAndVirpilThrottleConfigs.zip 457.14 kB · 0 downloads

MyJoystickGremlinAndVirpilThrottleConfigs.zip 457.14 kB · 0 downloads

Thank you.  I’m gonna definitely have something to do when I get there.  
I’m using my phone right now so I can’t download it till I get home. 
do u have the illustration of the 16 and 18 in there like u did with the f-14 in this post?  That is SO helpful do be able to look at the entire layout overall. U can also print it and put it next to u when you’re flying. That’s the quickest quick reference u could ever have.  
 

I do have a couple questions tho.  One thing I haven’t found a video on is how to create and use “modifier” in joystick gremlin.  That and when I do axis to button presses, they work in both directions in the virpil software but it seems than joystick gremlin only sends them when the axis moves in one direction and not the other so for Instance, my virtual detents for idle will fire when I push forward thru them but when I pull back to zero thru the range, the button presses don’t light up in joystick gremlin but they do light up in the virpil joytester software.  I hope that makes sense lol

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... do u have the illustration of the 16 and 18 in there like u did with the f-14 in this post?  ...

... I do have a couple questions tho.  One thing I haven’t found a video on is how to create and use “modifier” in joystick gremlin....

 

Sure here there are the illustrations, however as I was saying, I stopped updating them long time ago when I discovered that whenever I forget something, instead of maintaining kneeboard pages, it was easier just to look in the UI of joystick gremlin to see my comments for each button

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApKL6m6iP2FvuBMtGQGO3FlhQQQ9?e=sV5CqG

 

and for the modifiers, Yes I use them extensibly in my Joystick Profiles in the form of Modes and that is how I switch between Combat, Landing and other modes.  For example, only in the Landing or Ground Modes, the buttons to autostart, autostop or landing gear up/down are functional.  Obviously I use the Mode Switch Virpil button for that and I am not using the Modifier functionality from Virpil itself.  That Virpil button with 5 modes are configured in Virpil as simple buttons so you do need that part of my VIrpil configuration so that they work well with my Joystick Gremlin Profiles.

 

I also experimented with the "Temporary Mode Switch" from Joystick Gremlin but I found it to be kind of buggy.  Some times it did not returned from that mode so I ended up avoiding it.

 

 

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On 9/9/2021 at 11:42 PM, ralch said:

 

Sure here there are the illustrations, however as I was saying, I stopped updating them long time ago when I discovered that whenever I forget something, instead of maintaining kneeboard pages, it was easier just to look in the UI of joystick gremlin to see my comments for each button

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApKL6m6iP2FvuBMtGQGO3FlhQQQ9?e=sV5CqG

 

and for the modifiers, Yes I use them extensibly in my Joystick Profiles in the form of Modes and that is how I switch between Combat, Landing and other modes.  For example, only in the Landing or Ground Modes, the buttons to autostart, autostop or landing gear up/down are functional.  Obviously I use the Mode Switch Virpil button for that and I am not using the Modifier functionality from Virpil itself.  That Virpil button with 5 modes are configured in Virpil as simple buttons so you do need that part of my VIrpil configuration so that they work well with my Joystick Gremlin Profiles.

 

I also experimented with the "Temporary Mode Switch" from Joystick Gremlin but I found it to be kind of buggy.  Some times it did not returned from that mode so I ended up avoiding it.

 

 

That’s what I was talking about. The temp mode. I did all my setup for the modes with the mode switch from the havoc videos.  That’s why I was so interested in how u mapped everything since u mentioned him and said u used the modes as well. Plus, the way u mapped the f-14, looked more like the type of layout I’m more used to so I wanted to see your 18 and 16 stuff. 
I couldn’t get the temp mode switch to work the way I wanted so I just used “remap” in jg to map the button and added my usual 2 modifier buttons in dcs. Most of my commands are thru keyboard commands tho. I used the keyboard map from baileys voice attack profile for the f-16 since it has so many more keyboard commands and mapped the buttons to this key commands. I haven’t mapped anything on the other modes yet.  
I can’t wait to see your layout. I’m back on the phone and can’t open zip files but I’ll be home later and can get started.  

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On 9/9/2021 at 11:42 PM, ralch said:

 

Sure here there are the illustrations, however as I was saying, I stopped updating them long time ago when I discovered that whenever I forget something, instead of maintaining kneeboard pages, it was easier just to look in the UI of joystick gremlin to see my comments for each button

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApKL6m6iP2FvuBMtGQGO3FlhQQQ9?e=sV5CqG

 

and for the modifiers, Yes I use them extensibly in my Joystick Profiles in the form of Modes and that is how I switch between Combat, Landing and other modes.  For example, only in the Landing or Ground Modes, the buttons to autostart, autostop or landing gear up/down are functional.  Obviously I use the Mode Switch Virpil button for that and I am not using the Modifier functionality from Virpil itself.  That Virpil button with 5 modes are configured in Virpil as simple buttons so you do need that part of my VIrpil configuration so that they work well with my Joystick Gremlin Profiles.

 

I also experimented with the "Temporary Mode Switch" from Joystick Gremlin but I found it to be kind of buggy.  Some times it did not returned from that mode so I ended up avoiding it.

 

ohh so u were saying u dont have a version of the illustration for the mf-16 or f-18 like the one u did for the f-14 huh? 

 

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ohh so u were saying u dont have a version of the illustration for the mf-16 or f-18 like the one u did for the f-14 huh? 

 

I still have similar illustrations for the F-16 and F-18 (made with Microsoft Publisher),  but back when I only had a Thrustmaster TWCS and a CH Fighterstick and Joystick Gremlin.   That was long time ago and I didn't update them for Virpil and Gunfighter, sorry about that

 

Here is the same link, I checked the previous link and for some reason wasn't working:  https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApKL6m6iP2FvuBMtGQGO3FlhQQQ9?e=BKpjSh

 


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