F-5E Cold Start Training Mission with English Voice Instruction

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

This is the default F-5E start-up, taxi and take-off mission, but with an English voiceover added so that you don't have to read the instructions - with a couple of exceptions where mentioned.

If you wish, you can perform the required actions straight away, rather than waiting for the instructor to explain the action and in this way you can get through parts of the start-up that you already know, faster. You can then get to things you may be unsure about much quicker.

If the feedback for this tutorial mission voiceover is good, I will do the rest of the training missions as well and intend doing English voiceovers for other missions for Russian aircraft, which currently only have English onscreen text.

Comments are, of course, welcome.

 

File is available here:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3315158/

 

Just put the mission into your normal missions folder in the User/Saved Games/DCS directory and select it as a normal mission - don't lookin training cos it won't be there

 

Hope you like it. I kept some minor faulters in because I wanted it to sound more natural than someone reading off a sheet of paper - think I was only partly successful with that but hope to improve as I do others.

[Rudel_chw]

Nice, thanks for sharing this ... it should help a lot of new players that start with thr F-5E as their first clickable aircraft.

 

Question: Whatever happened to your previous account: Brixmis? .. I remember you had a lot of pictorial guides and now cant find any of them 

 

Edit: I just tried the mission, and having voice overs is a big improvement. I would have preffered a higher volume, I set the Helmet volume to max and the audio level was still quite low. Also, the "radio" effect is a bit much, sometimes its hard to understand the words, particularly if one is not a native english speaker.

 

Best regards.

 

Edited Saturday at 12:14 AM by Rudel_chw

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

Thanks - as far as I know, all is still as it was. I changed my forum name to include my Google profile and YT channel name after the new forum started and I thought that this just changes my forum name on all previous posts.

 

The pictorial guides and "Kneeboard Information Files" are all still there. I've even got some new material in the pipeline. The link is in my sig.

[Rudel_chw]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis) said:

Thanks - as far as I know, all is still as it was.

 

I'm afraid that it's not ... if I search for Brixmis no file comes up, and if I serach with your new account (JD_LincsUK) only 3 files show up.  Thanks for the link to your website, they are all there .. but my belief is that they had greater exposure when at ED's User Files

 

Best regards and thanks a lot for the Guides, I used several of them when first learning a new aircraft. 

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

29 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

Nice, thanks for sharing this ... it should help a lot of new players that start with thr F-5E as their first clickable aircraft.

 

Question: Whatever happened to your previous account: Brixmis? .. I remember you had a lot of pictorial guides and now cant find any of them 

Edit: I just tried the mission, and having voice overs is a big improvement. I would have preffered a higher volume, I set the Helmet volume to max and the audio level was still quite low. Also, the "radio" effect is a bit much, sometimes its hard to understand the words, particularly if one is not a native english speaker.

 

Best regards.

 

 

 

Thanks for the feedback - these are things I was hoping to hear about.

 

I'm surprised about the volume as I thought it might be too loud. I tested it on the monitor and in VR and it seemed okay.  The original recordings were low, but I boosted the level when I added a bit of distortion. I must admit, though, in all training missions the first thing I do is close the canopy. I don't really agree with having a dozen other things going on around you when you are trying to learn a new aircraft.

 

I also thought it would be better not to use radio effects, which is why all I did was add a little distortion. This was suggested by someone else, I never actually liked tutorials like the ones for FC 2 that, even as a native English speaker (and class1 military radio op) I struggled to understand.

 

I was planning to release a second version of this mission in natural audio and without the keyboard control callouts so we'll see how well that goes and what people prefer.

Edited Saturday at 12:34 AM by Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)
Typo's

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

22 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

I'm afraid that it's not ... if I search for Brixmis no file comes up, and if I serach with your new account (JD_LincsUK) only 3 files show up.  Thanks for the link to your website, they are all there .. but my belief is that they had greater exposure when at ED's User Files

 

Best regards and thanks a lot for the Guides, I used several of them when first learning a new aircraft. 

You're very welcome. I can't remember why I moved the ones in the user files to the website. Possibly because it was easier to present them how I wanted to and easier to edit and add to them. I can't remember exactly, but I know I wasn't happy with something.

 

Originally I had one just for myself for the A-10C back when it was standalone. I uploaded it to another flight sim website and was amazed at how popular it was, then after I did one for the Ka-50 they got even more popular and that kicked things off. The idea of putting them into kneeboard format too came years later.

 

When they were on my previous website the visitor numbers were quite humbling, which is why I moved them to Google sites.  More general exposure and they can stay there long-term because the costs are ridiculously low and there are no server issues.

 

Edit: I moved them to the website 2 or 3 years ago, maybe more. Before the AV-8B was released, that one went into the user files. I also thought it would be more convenient for people to view the guides online on a separate device rather than have to download and unarchive them.

Edited Saturday at 12:49 AM by Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)
Those typo's again...

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

So far there are 2 of 5 stars on the download yet zero comments. Early doors, I know.

 

If you don't like it tell me why - if you give it a bad score and say nothing AFAIC you are just trolling.

[Rudel_chw]

Don't worry about it, I never give any attention to those stars, since it's very unlikely that a person would download a File, test it on DCS, and then return to the File to award a star-rating .. so most star-ratings are actually given by people that has not even tried the file yet.

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

I wondered if it might have been what you said about my voice being difficult to understand with the distortion or too quiet (it's always possible people don't trust their written English to make a comment) - but yes, I mention that in my post as I see on Reddit that there seem to be a group of members who downvote everything. Hard to understand, but probably adolescents "playing".

 

 

[SorelRo]

Sounds good to me. Better than how it was before anyway. 

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

Okay - I know it's not easy to tell from just an audio recording, but I've amplified the audio as much as I can without making new recordings, be grateful if anyone could give them a listen and see if they sound loud enough.

 

Also, with files 00 and 01 I'd like to know which is preferred - the "stick to the lines" one (01) or the story type (00) version?

 

Thanks

[Rudel_chw]

3 hours ago, Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis) said:

Okay - I know it's not easy to tell from just an audio recording, but I've amplified the audio as much as I can without making new recordings, be grateful if anyone could give them a listen and see if they sound loud enough.

 

Hello,

 

Yes, they now have a volume that is similar to the one of other training missions. The audio distortion is a bit much for my taste, but I had no trouble understanding it.  I understand that most DCS users like the AM-radio-like audios, but my personal preference is for a cleaner audio, like if an instructor was at my side talking directly to me (not trough a radio).

 

3 hours ago, Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis) said:

Also, with files 00 and 01 I'd like to know which is preferred - the "stick to the lines" one (01) or the story type (00) version?

 

Sorry, I downloaded the new file on top of the old one, so I only have the latest version. On my case, I'm happy if the spoken instructions match closely enough the written text.

Best regards,

 

Eduardo

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

I prefer 'clean' voice for the tutorials, too - leave the simulation stuff for the missions, I say!

 

As I was saying to SorelRo when we we started doing this - I often feel stupid just repeating what is in the text, because often the English (grammar) is pretty awful. I know most non-English speakers (inlcuding Americans) won't tell the difference, but I feel it dumbs down the whole experience.

 

Don't get me started on terms like "loadout", either!

Edited Tuesday at 09:05 PM by Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)
spellling agayn!

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis) said:

... I often feel stupid just repeating what is in the text, because often the English (grammar) is pretty awful...

 

 

Well, if you are editing your own version of the training mission with these audio files, you may as well edit the texts as you see fit    .. the important thing is that the text be the same as the audio, in order to not be confusing. On my own missions the text messages often have items within parenteses (like the key combinations) to indicate that they are not being repeated on the audio, as I find that this makes for cleaner audio.

[Johnny Dioxin (Brixmis)]

Yeah -- I've already recorded the audio for the first 5 training missions and they include the key assignments. I didn't like including them, tbh. Now I've done half with them included, though, I think I should do the same with the rest. It's either that or record the whole lot again...