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In this track I attached you can see the N001 in game is unable to perform as described in the Su-27SK manual

I used a clean JF-17 in the testing since it has a 3m^2 RCS, the figure used in the manual.

 

 

 

I tested the 8500m look up cold Locking and detection in the track

 

The manual states

Look up from 8500m COLD (MPRF)
50-55km detection
45-50km lock

 

Look down from 8500m COLD
30 to 40km detection
30 to 35km lock

 

I was only able to lock at about 22 to 25km in my test

 

But I'd imagine other spots are broken as well I remember some issues at the 1000m alt

 

If you have more information feel free to add.

 

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N001 poor MPRF.trk

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Unfortunately I’m not where I can download and view your track. Am I correct in assuming that you controlled for the closure rate?

 

It’s been a long time since I last looked at this but I don’t recall it being that far off.

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Similar issue as 

 

 

Generally, all FC3 suffer in lookdown needlessly since the lookdown range is climbing with the aircraft

 

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On 2/19/2021 at 11:17 AM, TaxDollarsAtWork said:

In this track I attached you can see the N001 in game is unable to perform as described in the Su-27SK manual

I used a clean JF-17 in the testing since it has a 3m^2 RCS, the figure used in the manual.

 

 

 

I tested the 8500m look up cold Locking and detection in the track

 

The manual states

Look up from 8500m COLD (MPRF)
50-55km detection
45-50km lock

 

Look down from 8500m COLD
30 to 40km detection
30 to 35km lock

 

I was only able to lock at about 22 to 25km in my test

 

But I'd imagine other spots are broken as well I remember some issues at the 1000m alt

 

If you have more information feel free to add.

 

ulQM4QX.png

N001 poor MPRF.trk 524.83 kB · 4 downloads

 

Viewing your TRK in which you and the target were roughly co-altitude, detection was lost at a range of 35km; ability to lock was lost at 30km.

 

Using that as a baseline, I flew two other samples with the J-17 1500m above and 1500m below me with my altitude around 9000m.

 

Look Up:

Detection lost: 35km

Ability to lock lost: 30km

 

Look Down:

Detection lost: 23km

Ability to lock lost: 21km

 

So all three are definitely very different compared to the ranges cited in the manual.

 

EDIT: Added TRKs. They are sped up, so slow them down if you'd like.

 

N001 Test--J-17 Look Down.trk N001 Test--J-17 Look Up.trk


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41 minutes ago, Skysurfer said:

Try the same with a F16 or Mig-29 - the JF17 can be wonky with RCS.


I had also tried it with the F-15 and gained an extra 3km or so. It’s not the -17.

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Hi all

 

this is already reported internally, however I have no news to share with you at this moment. 

 

thanks you

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20 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi all

 

this is already reported internally, however I have no news to share with you at this moment. 

 

thanks you

 

OK. Thanks for letting us know.

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