Xilon_x Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 during the cold war this plane was really scary. The real reasons for the cancellation of the Arrow program remained shrouded in mystery until September 1976, when Soviet pilot Viktor Belenko defected with his powerful Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 fighter and landed in Japan. After the disappearance of the Arrow, the MiG-25 was in fact the only interceptor in the world capable of flying at speeds of over Mach 2. Western military experts examined the deserter's MiG-25 and found striking similarities to the Avro Arrow (prior to the MiG-25 by a few years), both in terms of performance and dimensions and technical solutions, such as the use of titanium. It then emerged that in the distant 1959 the Canadian Police had discovered that the Soviet secret service KGB had infiltrated the Arrow program with its agents and had obtained first-hand technical information: for this reason Canada decided the immediate destruction of all specimens without explanation. of the new supersonic fighter and the dismantling of production lines, before the KGB could steal more information. Link to post Share on other sites
upyr1 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 This would be a good community mod, Link to post Share on other sites
Evoman Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 A simple search turned up this other thread on this very same aircraft that was last updated not too long ago. https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/191856-cf-105-avro-quotarrowquot/?tab=comments#comment-191907 Link to post Share on other sites
Rudel_chw Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I have no interest in seeing prototype, experimental or fictional aircrafts in DCS, would surely not purchase them. 2 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to post Share on other sites
statrekmike Posted Thursday at 10:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:24 PM As a sort of legend in aircraft enthusiast community circles, the Arrow's popularity makes it a inevitable request for DCS wishlists. Heck, I would love it if we lived in a timeline where enough data could be gathered to make a worthwhile Arrow sim. Sadly. We don't live in that timeline. There simply isn't enough left of the Arrow as a overall project to make a convincing, worthwhile DCS module that would match the standards set by existing modules already. There are so many aspects to DCS module development that are simply impossible because there are no examples of the aircraft, not enough SME's who can meaningfully chime in, and not enough operational data to even begin. It sucks. I really love the Arrow but it isn't something we will see in DCS for a lot of reasons. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Evoman Posted Friday at 01:30 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:30 AM 55 minutes ago, statrekmike said: As a sort of legend in aircraft enthusiast community circles, the Arrow's popularity makes it a inevitable request for DCS wishlists. Heck, I would love it if we lived in a timeline where enough data could be gathered to make a worthwhile Arrow sim. Sadly. We don't live in that timeline. There simply isn't enough left of the Arrow as a overall project to make a convincing, worthwhile DCS module that would match the standards set by existing modules already. There are so many aspects to DCS module development that are simply impossible because there are no examples of the aircraft, not enough SME's who can meaningfully chime in, and not enough operational data to even begin. It sucks. I really love the Arrow but it isn't something we will see in DCS for a lot of reasons. Glad to see that there are more people that truly understand the requirements and complexities to realistically bring an aircraft simulation to DCS level quality. I would also add as an example the development of the P-47. There was a big challenge to do it due to the lack of data that was available for the P-47. "Following the war, all wind tunnel and needed flight dynamics data was destroyed. To overcome this, ED used Flow Vision to recreate the needed data. This has proven a long and expensive endeavor. However, to create the detailed flight dynamics that DCS requires, we consider it mandatory." Link to post Share on other sites
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