Xilon_x Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Mig 17 is evolution of mig 15 the difference is the wing change to 35° at 45° copare mig 15 to mig 17 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Northstar98 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 +1 Sure, I don't see why not. Only thing I will say is that REDFOR early Cold War already has 2 aircraft, we really need a BLUFOR aircraft early century series aircraft to complement the MiG-17 and 19. Mind you, the Super Mystère would go nicely with it. Modules I own: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, F-16CM, AJS-37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, P-47D, P-51D, FC3, MiG-15bis, Yak-52, CA, C-101, Hawk Terrains I own: Syria, The Channel, SoH System (RIP my old PC): Dell XPS 15 9570 w/ Intel i7-8750H, NVIDIA GTX 1050Ti Max-Q, 16GB DDR4, 500GB Samsung PM871 SSD (upgraded with 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD) VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro Dreams: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mBG4dD Link to post Share on other sites
Mars Exulte Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I knew they were almost the same except for the afterburning engine but didn't realise they changed the sweep. Interesting. On both the wings and the tail, too. Spoiler The troll formerly known as Zhukov Link to post Share on other sites
Buzzles Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 37 minutes ago, zhukov032186 said: I knew they were almost the same except for the afterburning engine but didn't realise they changed the sweep. Interesting. On both the wings and the tail, too. From the wiki page there's more: thinner wings, extra wing fences, removal of the automatic >m0.92 speed brake, and importantly: a radar gunsight. I'd be more than happy to see the -17 in DCS, be nice to almost have the whole suite then, as we've got -15, -19, -21 and soon the -23 and -29 as full modules. Edited February 18 by Buzzles Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon1-1 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I certainly wouldn't mind the MiG-17. It is basically a MiG-15 with AB and a radar gunsight, but that's all right. As long as it has a better AI FM than the -15... An F-100 to play with it and the -19 would be lovely, too, though it's not like either MiG couldn't give an F-4 a run for its money. Not that we have an F-4. Link to post Share on other sites
upyr1 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 hours ago, Northstar98 said: +1 Sure, I don't see why not. Only thing I will say is that REDFOR early Cold War already has 2 aircraft, we really need a BLUFOR aircraft early century series aircraft to complement the MiG-17 and 19. Mind you, the Super Mystère would go nicely with it. I say Let's get the F-100, Super Mystere, and the MiG-17 and anything else. Ideally HI but until the mods get developed then can we have some AI models? Link to post Share on other sites
Northstar98 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, upyr1 said: I say Let's get the F-100, Super Mystere, and the MiG-17 and anything else. Ideally HI but until the mods get developed then can we have some AI models? Sure, don't see why not. Maybe not at the top of priorities but wouldn't say no. 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, F-16CM, AJS-37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, P-47D, P-51D, FC3, MiG-15bis, Yak-52, CA, C-101, Hawk Terrains I own: Syria, The Channel, SoH System (RIP my old PC): Dell XPS 15 9570 w/ Intel i7-8750H, NVIDIA GTX 1050Ti Max-Q, 16GB DDR4, 500GB Samsung PM871 SSD (upgraded with 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD) VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro Dreams: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mBG4dD Link to post Share on other sites
Rudel_chw Posted Thursday at 09:06 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:06 PM Too similar to the MiG-15 bis, not sure if I would purchase it as I already have the -15 and the -19. I love aircraft of that era, but prefer to have a wider variety of countries represented in DCS, for example I would love a Hawker Hunter, or an F-84 or even an F-80. A Saab J-29 would be lovely as well 2 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to post Share on other sites
Jetguy06 Posted Friday at 06:01 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:01 PM This would be a day-one buy for me. I've been internally screaming for a Fresco for a long while now. It is definitely NOT a MiG-15. It's faster, with a better TWR, better acceleration, and was also the tightest-turning fighter until the F-16 was developed. The MiG-15 may look identical to the -17, but they're definitely different enough that a -15 is simply not a suitable replacement or stand-in for the Fresco. Link to post Share on other sites
upyr1 Posted Friday at 08:03 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:03 PM 1 hour ago, Jetguy06 said: This would be a day-one buy for me. I've been internally screaming for a Fresco for a long while now. It is definitely NOT a MiG-15. It's faster, with a better TWR, better acceleration, and was also the tightest-turning fighter until the F-16 was developed. The MiG-15 may look identical to the -17, but they're definitely different enough that a -15 is simply not a suitable replacement or stand-in for the Fresco. It would be especially nice if we get an F-105 and F-4D even if they are AI models Link to post Share on other sites
probad Posted Saturday at 06:46 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:46 AM id give up both my mig-15 and 19 for this tbh hahaha hey look at me i surely know more about aviation and coding than actual industry professionals hired for their competency because i have read jalopnik and wikipedia i bet theyve never even heard of google LOL Link to post Share on other sites
bies Posted Monday at 12:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:10 PM Two things about MiG-17, first it would be whole lot faster to make than any module made from scratch because ED already has MiG-15, plus MiG-17 is very simple plane. Second, now it would lack context but as soon as some other Vietnam era plane will be in DCS, like F-8 Crusader, MiG-17 will be the easiest and fastest (and most realistic) way to make Vietnam era RED counterpart. Link to post Share on other sites
Xilon_x Posted Monday at 03:53 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:53 PM Mig 17 and a very small plane in size. VARIANT Link to post Share on other sites
Xilon_x Posted Monday at 03:59 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:59 PM loock this link: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/307102-airfix-new-tool-mig-17f/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
upyr1 Posted Monday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:48 PM If we get the MIG-17 what model should it be? Link to post Share on other sites
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted Monday at 08:34 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:34 PM Honestly, I'd kill for one of the janky PFs or PFUs. Preferably U. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Click here to see the updated time until DCS: F-22A Link to post Share on other sites
probad Posted Monday at 08:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:41 PM its got to be the 17f, we already have a module weighed down by the izmrud 2 hahaha hey look at me i surely know more about aviation and coding than actual industry professionals hired for their competency because i have read jalopnik and wikipedia i bet theyve never even heard of google LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Xilon_x Posted Monday at 09:20 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 09:20 PM (edited) MiG-17F Fresco C Quando il VK-1F (forsag, postbruciatore) era disponibile il nuovo motore con postcombustore da 33,16 kN o 3 380 kg di spinta. Un prototipo che trasportava il nuovo motore, l'SF, una strana miscela di ala e coda MiG-17 e presa d'aria MiG-15, volò il 29 settembre 1951, con il collaudatore AN Chernoborov ai comandi. Il nuovo velivolo era molto simile al Fresco A, la differenza più grande era nell'ugello a geometria variabile che non era annegato nella fusoliera e negli aerofreni modificati, il tutto probabilmente dovuto alla nuova camera del postcombustore. Mentre la velocità massima era leggermente aumentata, la velocità di salita e il soffitto pratico sono diventati più alti. Il prototipo è stato messo in produzione come MiG-17F, Fresco C for the West. Altri aggiornamenti sono stati effettuati sul MiG-17F durante la produzione, come un radar collimatore SRD-1, identificabile da una piccola antenna sopra la presa d'aria, così come modifiche al motore e al sistema di alimentazione. Verso la fine del servizio operativo alcune macchine furono equipaggiate con R-3S o K-13A (AA-2 Atoll), missili aria-aria a ricerca di calore, una copia dell'USAF Sidewinder. if you want the chinese one and the mig 17F is called J-5 while the mig-17PF in chinese is the J-5A Edited Monday at 09:26 PM by Xilon_x Link to post Share on other sites
Xilon_x Posted Monday at 10:00 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 10:00 PM (edited) MIG-17 USA catturato VIETNAM: Some North Vietnamese pilots preferred the MiG-17 to the MiG-21 because it was more agile, although not as fast; three of the 16 axes of the VPAF war (credited for shooting down five or more opposing aircraft) were from MiG-17 Mikoyan Edited Monday at 10:06 PM by Xilon_x Link to post Share on other sites
lmp Posted yesterday at 01:04 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 PM 20 hours ago, upyr1 said: If we get the MIG-17 what model should it be? MiG-17F would be the best dogfighter and perhaps the most historically relevant? If we could get two variants, the F and PF would cover most historical scenarios (and the PF's radar would differentiate it from the MiG-15bis a bit more). If we could have three... the Lim-6bis would add some air to ground options. Link to post Share on other sites
CarbonFox Posted yesterday at 05:02 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:02 PM Maybe I'm spoiled from Heatblur but two versions would be great. You can have the MiG-17F Fresco-C if you want a pure dogfighter and either the PF Fresco-D or PM for more interception-style missions. 1 F/A-18C; A-10C; F-14B; Mirage 2000C; A-4E; F-16C; Flaming Cliffs 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Jetguy06 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago I'd say a -17F. Link to post Share on other sites
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