MFD's

[Bedouin]

Hmm how to fix this in the Home Cockpit, the Thrustmasters MFDs have way to little buttons to could accommodate this.

 

The Apache MFD has 31 buttons and 3 knobs, see the picture. I am considering changing the Thrustmaster MFD with two Elgato Steamdeck XL, they got 32 buttons.

 

Any of you guyz have come up with a solution to this.

[Sacarino111]

Use the rocker buttons to reach the extra buttons. You can add some extra rotarys for the knobs.

But yes, it is a pain in the a**.

Saludos.

Saca111

 

[Viper1970]

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Edited May 30, 2021 by Viper1970

[Remco]

Alternatively, unlike the DCS jets you are used to now, the Longbow has a cursor that is controlled from the Collective and TEDAC that can be used to select any option on the MPD. In real life we don't use it much since we still prefer the MPD pushbuttons, at least in my squadron, however in DCS I'm going to see myself preferring the build in cursor to stay hands on over switching my hand to the mouse to click the MPD's. I imagine most DCS players getting used to using the cursor and staying hands on collective. That said for the enthusiastic sim pit builders it will of course be nice to have accurate MPD's, but it certainly won't be necessary to get a "realistic" experience, using the cursor on your collective is totally valid.

[Sinclair_76]

11 minutes ago, UnlikelyGM said:

Alternatively, unlike the DCS jets you are used to now, the Longbow has a cursor that is controlled from the Collective and TEDAC that can be used to select any option on the MPD. In real life we don't use it much since we still prefer the MPD pushbuttons, at least in my squadron, however in DCS I'm going to see myself preferring the build in cursor to stay hands on over switching my hand to the mouse to click the MPD's. I imagine most DCS players getting used to using the cursor and staying hands on collective. That said for the enthusiastic sim pit builders it will of course be nice to have accurate MPD's, but it certainly won't be necessary to get a "realistic" experience, using the cursor on your collective is totally valid.

3rd fastest way to die, a PF use the cursor while flying NOE. Just behind letting go of the controls (without any hold modes of course) and low speed IIMC.

[Remco]

9 minutes ago, Sinclair_76 said:

3rd fastest way to die, a PF use the cursor while flying NOE. Just behind letting go of the controls (without any hold modes of course) and low speed IIMC.

"Just behind letting go of the controls" what do you think you have to do to use the MPD pushbuttons? 

Though I jest, you are correct, we prefer to MPD pushbuttons because we can press them practically blindly, the problem with the cursor is you take your attention away from outside and to the MPD to reference the cursor which is a big problem in NOE. That said you really shouldn't be fiddling with the MPD's in NOE flight anyway, you have someone else to do that for you. 

Don't get me wrong of course having the physical MPD's is still going to be nice but it is a lot less necessary for the Longbow than it is for other DCS jets, even ones designed to be hotas like the F16.

[Sinclair_76]

7 minutes ago, UnlikelyGM said:

"Just behind letting go of the controls" what do you think you have to do to use the MPD pushbuttons? 

Controls, as in plural. For MPD pushbuttons, I suppose, you only need to let go of the collective.

[Nomatic]

3 hours ago, UnlikelyGM said:

Alternatively, unlike the DCS jets you are used to now, the Longbow has a cursor that is controlled from the Collective and TEDAC that can be used to select any option on the MPD. In real life we don't use it much since we still prefer the MPD pushbuttons, at least in my squadron, however in DCS I'm going to see myself preferring the build in cursor to stay hands on over switching my hand to the mouse to click the MPD's. I imagine most DCS players getting used to using the cursor and staying hands on collective. That said for the enthusiastic sim pit builders it will of course be nice to have accurate MPD's, but it certainly won't be necessary to get a "realistic" experience, using the cursor on your collective is totally valid.

Especially for VR flying

[sobe]

As it will be awhile until CaptZeen creates his Helios profile for the Apache, I thought I would just create a simple Helios profile of the two MFDs and Keypad viewports for the pilot.  Of course nothing has been programmed yet. 

[Mnemonic]

Rocker buttons are good substitute, or, as an option use modifier (paddle lever on the stick) + the “last” button in the row as an additional button.

don’t see it as much of a trouble, we’ll see how the general flow will be

[Meathawk]

Specially in VR I think the PointCNTRL devices will be a very good solution with the MFDs and the Keyboard.

 

 

from 16:10 to about 19:00 that could be somewhat similar interaction with the AH-64

Edited June 30, 2021 by Meathawk

[SparrowHawk003]

On 3/7/2021 at 11:09 PM, sobe said:

As it will be awhile until CaptZeen creates his Helios profile for the Apache, I thought I would just create a simple Helios profile of the two MFDs and Keypad viewports for the pilot.  Of course nothing has been programmed yet. 

@sobe have you or anyone else made any progress with this HELIOS profile for the Ah64?