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So that people do not just copy-and-paste the entire library of the worlds combat aircraft, what aircraft would you like to see in DCS in the "AI Only" category for mission creators to use in their creations?

My list is fairly simple:
1: Tu 16 Badger
Since we have a carrier and a Tomcat, not having the Badger would be strange, esp not as it can be used in  so many ways - as a level bomber, as a recon plane, as a ASM Carrier and so on.

2: Hawker Hunter
One of the worlds most common aircraft and a good fit for almost any environment. Would make good opposition for the MIG 19; especially in the role of a fighter bomber.

3: MiG 17F Fresco

Also a very common plane that would fit everywhere from Nevada to Syria to the Gulf. While the MiG 15 can fill in for it, the 17 would be a good fit for the 1950s to 1970s battlespace.

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There aren't many aircraft types which I would not want as FF flyable modules, so to add something which is non-flyable, but AI featured I would have to go for the bigger multi-engined utility or support types, which would give mission/campaign builders more options to generate interesting narratives.

 

Something like a P3 Orion, Badger is a good shout, C-5/C-141 for cold war Reforger type scenarios,  etc.

 

How about an ekranoplan?  Imagine being scrambled to defend the carrier against these!

 

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How about low poly planes that we currently have in DCS that need an upgrade? Planes that can fit better into DCS scenarios and could have some use in the coming Dynamic Campaign.

 

B-1

B-52

C-17

F-117

S-3

Su-17

Tu-142

Tu-160

Tu-95

 

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Early Cold War era needs some units desperately. There isnt much proper foes for MiG-15 and 19.

 

 B-29 is absolute must.

I would also liked to see B-47, B-36, B-45, IL-28 and Tu-4.

F-100 and F-104 are also needed, hoewer Its very possible that somebody could do those as FF.

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Civilian B737, A320, etc. to model intercepts with a bit of a challenge/require visident.

Older Mirages, Etendards, A-4E Skyhawk, Helos AH-6, Lynx, Dauphin, V-22 Osprey...

 

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I'd want to get the current aircraft up to the same standard first.

 

After that though, in priority order:

 

Bombers/Maritime Strike:

  • Tupolev Tu-16 "Badger A" (basic bomber variant), Tu-16K-10-26 "Badger C" (maritime strike), Tu-16KSR-2-5-11 "Badger G" (maritime strike + bomber)
  • Tupolev Tu-22RD/RDK "Blinder C" (bomber/reconnaissance), Tu-22KD "Blinder B" (maritime strike)
  • Tupolev Tu-95 "Bear A" (basic bomber variant), Tu-95KD "Bear B" (maritime strike variant)
  • Avro Vulcan B.2 (*)
  • Handley Page Victor B.2/B.1 (*)
  • English Electric Canberra B.6/B.(I)6/B(I).8 (*)
  • Ilyushin Il-28 "Beagle" (*)
  • Martin B-57 Canberra (*)
  • Boeing B-52G Stratofortress
  • Boeing B-36D Peacemaker
  • Boeing B-47E Stratojet
  • Heinkel He 111 H-x (H-6/H-11/H-16)
  • North American B-45A Tornado (*)

MPA/ASW:

  • Lockheed P-3C Orion (w. ASW capability)
  • Lockheed S-3A Viking (w. ASW capability) (*)
  • Hawker Siddeley Nimrod MR.2/MR.1 (w. ASW capability)

Reconnaissance/ELINT/Targeting:

  • Tupolev Tu-95RT "Bear D"
  • Boeing RC-135V/W Rivet Joint
  • Boeing E-8 JSTARS
  • Tupolev Tu-16RM-1/RM-2 "Badger D"
  • English Electric Canberra PR.7/PR.9

AEW&C:

  • Northrop Grumman E-2C Hawkeye
  • Tupolev Tu-126 "Moss"

EW:

  • Tupolev Tu-16P "Badger L"
  • Northrop Grumman EA-6B Prowler
  • EF-111A Raven

Aerial Refuelling:

  • McDonnell Douglas KC-10A Extender
  • Vickers VC-10 K2
  • Handley Page Victor K.2
  • Lockheed TriStar K1/KC2

Transport:

  • Antonov An-12BK "Cub"
  • Tupolev Tu-154B/B-1/B-2/S/M "Careless"
  • Boeing 727-100/727-200/C-22

 

(*) marks aircraft that could be made into full fidelity modules

 

Top 3:

 

The Tu-16, Tu-22 (either basic bomber or maritime strike, but preferably both) and the Lockheed P-3C Orion (w. ASW capability). 


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Early B-52, because the early ones look really distinctive and different.

 

Today's B-52's have a short square vertical tail surface. The earlier B-52's from the Vietnam era and before, had a giant shark tail, soaring another 100ft ABL (Above Bomber Level). Also, they didn't have any chin-mounted electrooptics, so the chin area was nice and curved. I'm thinking this would be very nice for missions during the 1960's and 70's, with the old Mig 19's, Crusaders, Phantoms and such.

 

There were the "Big Belly" conversions, where they took B-52D's, added external hardpoints, for a huge payload, and were tasked with "arc-light" missions, lighting up the sky for miles.

 

Why do I propose this? Because doing early decade missions with a B-52 H just looks wrong and dumb!!  And... a bare metal high tail SAC B-52 is just a thing of beauty!

 

 

Also:  Mig-25 Foxbat... because cool.

 

 

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This looks like a competition of who asks for a bigger quantity of aircrafts 🤔 

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8 hours ago, JonathanRL said:

So that people do not just copy-and-paste the entire library of the worlds combat aircraft, what aircraft would you like to see in DCS in the "AI Only" category for mission creators to use in their creations?

My list is fairly simple:
1: Tu 16 Badger
Since we have a carrier and a Tomcat, not having the Badger would be strange, esp not as it can be used in  so many ways - as a level bomber, as a recon plane, as a ASM Carrier and so on.

2: Hawker Hunter
One of the worlds most common aircraft and a good fit for almost any environment. Would make good opposition for the MIG 19; especially in the role of a fighter bomber.

3: MiG 17F Fresco

Also a very common plane that would fit everywhere from Nevada to Syria to the Gulf. While the MiG 15 can fill in for it, the 17 would be a good fit for the 1950s to 1970s battlespace.

I'd like to see a human flyable MiG-17 that way we have most of the MiG family 

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Honestly, I want to see more of the larger aircraft, like the AC-130 gunship lineup, more of the tanker/support aircraft like the river joint/jstars.

 

I definitely want to see more aircraft from the UK, RU, India, China, Iran, etc. right now  the sim feels like USA v. RU.

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8 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

This looks like a competition of who asks for a bigger quantity of aircrafts 🤔 


This is my bad. I had intended to add a limit to only name three aircraft but I realised I forgot to add that part of the post...

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9 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

This looks like a competition of who asks for a bigger quantity of aircrafts 🤔 

 

And I'm winning then, so there! :harhar:


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9 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

This looks like a competition of who asks for a bigger quantity of aircrafts 🤔 

 

It also looks like posters have ignored or misunderstood the 'AI only' aspect of the question.  Many of the types listed above would be great modules and a shame to be AI only.  F-117?  A-6? E-2? Superbug? MiG-17? etc.

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40 minutes ago, Lace said:

 

It also looks like posters have ignored or misunderstood the 'AI only' aspect of the question.  Many of the types listed above would be great modules and a shame to be AI only.  F-117?  A-6? E-2? Superbug? MiG-17? etc.

 

Well the A-6 is one already in development for AI, and hope-to full-fidelity module by Heatblur (if it ever gets released, like the J-35J and Forrestal).

 

The F-117 that was suggested was about getting it up to standard with the rest of the AI units.


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SR-71 - Even though it would be utterly pointless within the context of DCS, unless we suddenly need reconnaissance missions for the dynamic campaign...

 

Who cares about that, though? I just want to look at it.

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P-3

KC-10

EA-6B.....how are you going to have SC and not even offer a full air wing of aircraft options.

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Firstly...It has been like AGES that we see our REMAINING AI 3D models to getting some updates....Plenty of Gimp/Paint early Flanker 2.0 and LOMAC models...

 

As for NEW AI 3D planes:

 

Su-30M - Russian version of their own slightly updated base version. I know we have the base version, but it looks like its not even the to be updated AI 3D roadmap.

Rafale series

F-18 Super Hornet

F-111 series

Mig 29K

F-22 and F-35 - IF it is possible to even create an AI 3D model...

J-10

E-8 JSTARS - IF we do get some J-STARS feature in future.

Mig-17

Su-15

Airbus A400

 

Civilian.

Boeing 747

Boeing 737 series (good for escort missions)

Airbus A320

IL 96

IL 62

 

Falcon 2000

Gulfstream G450.

Learjet family series...any model.

 

 


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I want AI Civilian Transports. 737, 777, A320, A340. We have a lot of civilian airports in the maps without air traffic. I am also curious how civilian transports show up on radar. Don't want to accidently shoot down that 737. 

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3 hours ago, Grimleo said:

I want AI Civilian Transports. 737, 777, A320, A340. We have a lot of civilian airports in the maps without air traffic. I am also curious how civilian transports show up on radar. Don't want to accidently shoot down that 737. 


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New or refreshed

MiG-29KR/KUBR

Ka-52K

Ka-31R

Ka-27PS

F/A-18E 

P-3

P-8

C-2

V-22

SH-60

S-3B

CH-53

 

Ultimately - all applicable aircraft for each coalition we have in DCS together with their sins, but more importantly all that matter for a given map. 

 


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