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Hey,

Anyone know what is the loiter time or how long can you fly around before needing to refuel, if you start up fully loaded (without external tank)..?

And how long time does a refueling take?

 

Thanks.

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On 1/28/2021 at 1:04 PM, UnlikelyGM said:

Add ~30 minutes if loaded with a robbie tank instead of gun ammunition.

"robbie tank" might refer to this (not sure where the term "robbie" comes from.):
 

https://robertsonfuelsystems.com/defense/combo-pak-internal-auxiliary-fuel-system-iafs/


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2 hours ago, cordite said:

Not sure if serious...

 

Also not sure why they’d have a RFQ button. 

 

RFQ? Where did you read that?

And what should not be serious here? That Website looks quite legit to me.

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4 hours ago, DanielNL said:

not sure where the term "robbie" comes from

 

"Robbie" comes from the company that makes the equipment: Robertson Fuel Systems.

 

3 hours ago, cordite said:

Also not sure why they’d have a RFQ button. 

 

If you are referring to the Request For Quote button, it's because a lot of different countries fly the Apache, which are all potential customers for purchasing Robertson's products.  This includes future operators of the Apache, such as Australia.  Not to mention all the other products Robertson sells for other platforms.


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On 2/6/2021 at 8:07 PM, cordite said:

Yes, but you’d think the small number of potential customers would already have their number, or get it upon committing to the Apache platform.

Not necessarily. A lot of contractors keep options open for new potential customers, and being that they aren't a primary distributor (such as Boeing for OEM parts, materials and support) they may not have direct customer interaction from the onset of a contract with the manufacturer. Not every country operates in the same way or capacity as the US DoD. 

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If I remember right, the Robby tanks add another 150 gallons of fuel and allows for 300 rounds of ammo.

 

What a lot of people don't realize is just how fast this aircraft goes from Empty weight to MGW in a hurry. A full tank of gas, full ammo mag, and loaded pylons with crew can get you right up there, and were talking single digit margins for power. The Robby tanks came into prevalence when operations in Afghanistan really came into play- high density altitude coupled with the need for loiter times as well as adequate time on station with enough munitions to do work, there had to be a trade off. They eliminated the need for the FCR and pulled that off...followed by the Robby, and utilization of single station pylons on the mounts. 1 pylon each side, 1 would have 2 missiles, and the other would have a half full pod of rockets. That saved weight and increased loiter times. 

 

IF, and ONLY IF, ED does a good job recreating performance numbers and curves, you're going to see just how heavy and sluggish this thing gets at full payload. Add high density altitude to it and you can get yourself backed into a corner VERY quickly. 

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Yep, an Afghanistan map would be a good challenge for us chopper pilots.

It would also be good for comparing the MI-24 and Apache when combating non missile armed insurgence.

You can imagine how the introduction of the stinger in the 80s Afghan war really gave the Russians a headache.   


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