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If you have the azimuth setting at say 40, in the TID, the diagonal lines radiating out from the bottom represent a total of 40 degrees, or 20 deg on either side  of your nose, right?

 

Next, the notion of TWS only does 20 az 4 bar or 40 az 2 bar.  It seems that the only time this applies is when I’m in TWS-M.  Is that right?  Because it seems when I have it on TWS-A, it doesn’t matter where I have the knobs set, the system chooses 20 az 4 Bar or 40 az 2 bar as needed to keep all contacts in the scan.

 

when in TWS-M, if I put her in 20 az, 4 bar then changed the bar, it then defaults to just 20/4, right?  If I then changed it to 40 az but kept the bars at 4, then would it just default to 40/2 or to 20/4?

 

I ask because I seem to get varying results but I’m sure there a plausible explanation for it.

 

Thanks!

 

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40 minutes ago, bonesvf103 said:

If you have the azimuth setting at say 40, in the TID, the diagonal lines radiating out from the bottom represent a total of 40 degrees, or 20 deg on either side  of your nose, right?

 

Next, the notion of TWS only does 20 az 4 bar or 40 az 2 bar.  It seems that the only time this applies is when I’m in TWS-M.  Is that right?  Because it seems when I have it on TWS-A, it doesn’t matter where I have the knobs set, the system chooses 20 az 4 Bar or 40 az 2 bar as needed to keep all contacts in the scan.

 

when in TWS-M, if I put her in 20 az, 4 bar then changed the bar, it then defaults to just 20/4, right?  If I then changed it to 40 az but kept the bars at 4, then would it just default to 40/2 or to 20/4?

 

I ask because I seem to get varying results but I’m sure there a plausible explanation for it.

 

Thanks!

 

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1. Yes, the lines on the TID will be angled to correspond to the radar’s azimuth setting.

 

2. it only corresponds to TWSM, yes. TWSA is all computer controlled.

 

3. You can change the azimuth setting all you want in TWSM. The bar setting will always correspond to 4 or 2 depending on the azimuth setting.

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Ok thanks.

 

for #3...ok, so what if your are in TWS M and you are at 20 deg, 4 bar and then you change the azimuth to 65...what will happen.  It will stay 20/4?

 

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The manual at is quite useful on this http://heatblur.se/F-14Manual/general.html#pulse-doppler-mode

 

"As the computer routine calculating these tracks need a set track refresh time of 2 seconds this limits available azimuth scan area and bar settings to either 20° 4 bars or 40° 2 bars. When entering TWS the computer automatically selects the ±20° 4 bar scan disregarding the RIO set scan volumes unless those are set to ±40° 2 bars in which case that is used instead."

 

If you are in TWS and have anything but 40/2bar set, it will be in 20/4bar.

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Yes, I've read the manual over and over about this but it wasn't really sinking in because the way it is presented is a bit confusing as it doesn't in this excerpt specify for TWS-A or TWS-M.  I actually had to try it myself to really fully grasp what was going on and see what happens under different settings.

 

So I'm clear now, thanks.

 

My new question is this:  I get that the range of PDS is 110 miles and RWS and TWS is 90--but I would think that the datalink would still show contacts beyond that--So how come when I have the radar at 200 miles and the AWACS is calling that the bandit is 150 miles away right in front of my nose in TWS, I don't see a DL contact in my TID?  I have the DL on, the right freq, the correct switches, and the DL button by the HCU on.

 

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AFAIK DCS has some difficulties showing DL contacts over great distances.

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The AWACs is not an all seeing eye, it has a finite range and can be notched or an opponent can use terrain to mask. Also bear in mind it takes time for a radar contact to become a track and then to be transferred by DL, it may be the case the track is being lost before it can be conveyed by DL but is being relayed by voice radio to you.

 

In these situations I try to keep a mental map of intermittent radar & DL contacts and tracks as well as voice comms on contacts. Should it be better then it is, perhaps, it is representative of the real life difficulties of maintaining a radar track and picture, probably.

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