bies Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) Is our Apache going to have Optical Relay Tube or TEDAC shown on previous page? Or it is unknow yet? Edited January 24, 2021 by bies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 ORT fits the timeline. 1 i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bies Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, Fri13 said: ORT fits the timeline. Thanks. Personally i think ORT looks cooler, TEDAC is just aother modern display. I'm curious how it's going to be implemented, maybe i.e. like Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, bies said: Thanks. Personally i think ORT looks cooler, TEDAC is just aother modern display. I'm curious how it's going to be implemented, maybe i.e. like Viggen. Well, every display user can be happy as they can just use a snap-view to get full screen view of it. TrackIR users can be as well happy for it. But VR users have problems as Apache and Mi-24 both does have these one-eye targeting scopes that need to rest your head when looking through. And if it becomes such, it will not be nice at all. And if it is like a normal gunsight like in Mi-8 or UH-1 doorgunners etc, it will be annoying. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bies Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 That's why i'm concerned, but i believe they will find the way to implement it. On the other hand one eye helmet sight with HUD and FLIR looks like perfect for VR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 12:45 AM, Foxtrot_3103 said: If you have a 3d printer and with a bit of DIY'ing you can find the collective base and controls from here. He has a Kiowa collective and he's doing an Apache one Oh, thanks for the awesome link!! I doubt I'll be printing my own, but it's cool that someone's sharing the 3d files! Hmm... now tha I think about it, this might be more doable than I thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordite Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Are any of the hats on the Apache (or Kiowa for that matter) cyclic/collective on an axis, or are they all momentary button pushes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vigilante87 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 hours ago, cordite said: Are any of the hats on the Apache (or Kiowa for that matter) cyclic/collective on an axis, or are they all momentary button pushes? All momentary, other then the cursor slew on the cyclic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Mac= Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I know this is going to be a very complex and complicated question so I won't mind if the answers are rather lengthy. How do you open the door? The Hornet is best at killing things on the ground. Now, if we could just get a GAU-8 in the nose next to the AN/APG-65, a titanium tub around the pilot, and a couple of J-58 engines in the tail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudica Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 2:45 AM, Foxtrot_3103 said: If you have a 3d printer and with a bit of DIY'ing you can find the collective base and controls from here. He has a Kiowa collective and he's doing an Apache one He's a she, and that is me. :) Yeah, my stuff is free. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted January 26, 2021 ED Team Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Regarding cockpit controls, the biggest thing that will make a difference is what specific "Change number" of the AH-64D 2002 manual ED is operating on. There was over ten years worth of changes in avionics software versions that has modified functionality of the some of the controls on the cyclic grips and CPG's ORT/TEDAC grips. And in some cases, some of the buttons changed multiple times. And since we don't even know if the module will have the ORT or the TEDAC, or legacy TADS or MTADS, that could also change things. (Yes, I know the teaser video had an MTADS nose, but until ED confirms what configuration, I seriously doubt that can be considered confirmation of the features list.) Edited January 26, 2021 by Raptor9 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) - Edited May 30, 2021 by Viper1970 1 1 CockpitPC1: R9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2SSD|2TB M2SSD|RTX3090|ReverbG2|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|2x GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC1: R9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x2TB HDD|RTX2070|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|GTX660|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC3: AthlnIIX2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|5950Ultra|2xVoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME - PC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot_3103 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Boudica said: He's a she, and that is me. Yeah, my stuff is free. Sorry my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudica Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 39 minutes ago, Foxtrot_3103 said: Sorry my bad Nah dude, don't be sorry. I also identify as an attack helicopter. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cab Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Boudica said: Nah dude, don't be sorry. I also identify as an attack helicopter. That's funny on a couple of levels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathawk Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Question on the AH-64 MFDs - the black Buttons near the edges - are those simnple push buttons or seesaw push buttons or seesaw switches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted January 27, 2021 ED Team Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Meathawk said: Question on the AH-64 MFDs - the black Buttons near the edges - are those simnple push buttons or seesaw push buttons or seesaw switches? They are normal pushbuttons, but they correspond with a single command, called "Fixed Action Buttons". For example, if you push the COM button, it goes to the Communications page. Whereas other buttons change their function based on what is displayed on the screen, like other aircraft MFDs. Edited January 27, 2021 by Raptor9 1 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinclair_76 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) On 1/24/2021 at 8:06 PM, Fri13 said: Well, every display user can be happy as they can just use a snap-view to get full screen view of it. TrackIR users can be as well happy for it. But VR users have problems as Apache and Mi-24 both does have these one-eye targeting scopes that need to rest your head when looking through. And if it becomes such, it will not be nice at all. And if it is like a normal gunsight like in Mi-8 or UH-1 doorgunners etc, it will be annoying. The ORT has a old style display in front which can show video of the DVO. The heads down display is there mainly to use the DVO without any electronics (in case of EMI) and in color. You could bypass the ORT (int and ext) altogether by using either MFD. Edited January 28, 2021 by Sinclair_76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) - Edited May 30, 2021 by Viper1970 CockpitPC1: R9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2SSD|2TB M2SSD|RTX3090|ReverbG2|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|2x GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC1: R9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x2TB HDD|RTX2070|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|GTX660|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC3: AthlnIIX2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|5950Ultra|2xVoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME - PC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 1:45 AM, Boudica said: Nah dude, don't be sorry. I also identify as an attack helicopter. LOL!! Well thank you for your efforts to make these files! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudica Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Rick50 said: LOL!! Well thank you for your efforts to make these files! No worries! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengou Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 Casmo with an excellent video on this topic: 1 Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) The Apache looks like it is going to be an absolute nightmare to bind. The collective is like 2 Virpil Alphas on top of each other, the cyclick is like a VKB MCG/SCG, and the TADS/TEDAC in the front is like another 2 VKB SGC/Virpil Alpha. Edited February 5, 2021 by Northstar98 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) I tend to use the Thrustmaster Gui on my warthog. This can give 5 layers for every button on the warthog stick, throttle and MFDs. I/O and U/M/D. I/O will be the pilot/copilot selector for Hotas operation. U/M/D will be set appropriately to each Pilot/copilot needs. Thrustmaster will easily out Hotas the Apache Longbow.... the problem is remembering a complex Hotas system in an already complex VR cockpit. My Apache thrustmaster programme will grow as I slowly learn this Chopper....... very much looking forward to the challenge. Bring it on! Edited February 5, 2021 by Rogue Trooper HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) - Edited May 30, 2021 by Viper1970 1 CockpitPC1: R9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2SSD|2TB M2SSD|RTX3090|ReverbG2|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|2x GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC1: R9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x2TB HDD|RTX2070|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|GTX660|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC3: AthlnIIX2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|5950Ultra|2xVoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME - PC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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