Wizard_03 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Great video by Wags. Questions I have are: Can we expect 60/60 CM loadouts, the ability to deploy with master arm off, and programing with WOW In the next update? Thanks! 2 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 8, 2021 ED Team Share Posted January 8, 2021 Hey Wizard, We plan to add a new flare type later that will increase the count. It is much more than just changing a data value. The next Hornet update will allow MAN programming with WOW. thanks! 2 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creature_1stVFW Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Great stuff. Looks like Hornet is going to have a great update day. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus MOBO||Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core, 24 Thread Processor || MSI GTX 1070Ti 8GB GPU OverClocked || 32GB GSKILL DDR4 RAM @3600 || Samsung 1TB SSD || Samsung 250GB SSD || WD Caviar Black 2TB HDD || WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD || Thermaltake ToughPower GF1 850W PS || Thermaltake Tower || Windows 10 Pro 64bit || Thrustmaster Warthog and Cougar sticks, throttles and MFDs || Saitek Rudder Pedals || Trackir 5 || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, NineLine said: Hey Wizard, We plan to add a new flare type later that will increase the count. It is much more than just changing a data value. The next Hornet update will allow MAN programming with WOW. thanks! Oh ok I see, I Appreciate the info, looking forward to the update. We're on the home stretch now! DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andartu Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Wizard_03 said: "the ability to deploy with master arm off" The Legacy Hornets actually cannot expend CM with Master Arm off. So this would be a "correct as is". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter22 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 So once ECM xmt activate the AA radar goes to standby mode??? Sorry mi ignorance!!!! My Rig:I7 4790K OC to 4.5 GHz .Memory ram 16GB 64 Bit MOB Asus Maximus hero VII Nvidia NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 T Asus Monitor 4K at 3840x2160 Windos 10 64-bit on SDD 500 and DCS on separate SSD drive. Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog CH pro pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Andartu said: The Legacy Hornets actually cannot expend CM with Master Arm off. So this would be a "correct as is". Oh ok, yeah when the hornet first came out, many were absolutely certain you could, but I don't know myself. Maybe its a difference in suites or not legacy like you said. DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 hours ago, NineLine said: The next Hornet update will allow MAN programming with WOW Great news!!!! Excellent! Thank you! Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Peter22 said: So once ECM xmt activate the AA radar goes to standby mode??? Sorry mi ignorance!!!! Yeah from what I understand setting the dial to XMIT arms the system so when it detects a threat it does EW stuff to counter and that would also affect ownship radar so it silences it while it does it's thing. DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Wizard_03 said: Yeah from what I understand setting the dial to XMIT arms the system so when it detects a threat it does EW stuff to counter and that would also affect ownship radar so it silences it while it does it's thing. Maybe it is so powerful that it would jam its own radar. Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Will the ability to dispense chaff/flare with Master Arm OFF, as in reality, be fixed as well? This was reported around 2018 and there's been no word on fixing it since. Edited January 9, 2021 by Nealius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon_120 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I wonder if they dynamic we see in the video against SAM, will be also effective against airbone radars tracking you, as well as active missiles (amraams, phoenix,r77...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 9, 2021 ED Team Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 hours ago, falcon_120 said: I wonder if they dynamic we see in the video against SAM, will be also effective against airbone radars tracking you, as well as active missiles (amraams, phoenix,r77...) of course. as mentioned in the video, it is effective against airborne and surface based radars 12 hours ago, Wizard_03 said: Yeah from what I understand setting the dial to XMIT arms the system so when it detects a threat it does EW stuff to counter and that would also affect ownship radar so it silences it while it does it's thing. correct, when in XMIT, the system will only actively jam when the ownship is locked up in a guidance mode. when not locked, it automatically, uses REC only. 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogieman Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Interesting. So will the ASPJ placed in XMIT jam enemy fighter radars that are painting ownship in TWS mode, for example? Or will they be unaffected? Edited January 10, 2021 by Boogieman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Boogieman said: Interesting. So will the ASPJ placed in XMIT jam enemy fighter radars that are painting ownship in TWS mode, for example? Or will they be unaffected? They will be unaffected. It will only jam if hardlocked (STT). 1 Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 So there isn't any way to deny range information by manually using the ASPJ? It'll only work if we're STT'd? The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Harker said: So there isn't any way to deny range information by manually using the ASPJ? It'll only work if we're STT'd? Appareantly no. We will be in a universe where all ECM in every DCS aircraft works one way, and just one plane that works differently (hornet). I love the way it looked from wags video. But it surely rises many questions about other current simulations in the same game. Edited January 10, 2021 by Joni Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Having the ability to break someones lock with ECM is an enormous advantage, I'd take that over the current "jammers" that just make radar not lock beyond X range any day of the week. SARH missiles can basically be turned off now lol Edited January 10, 2021 by Wizard_03 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Clark Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 All the FC3 jammers seem to be a rudimentary noise jammer or barrage jammer, and nothing more. This function in the Hornet looks to be something like a range gate pull-off attack, which is totally different. I wonder if the ASPJ has additional modes or functions that we may yet be getting in the future? 1 Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Bunny Clark said: All the FC3 jammers seem to be a rudimentary noise jammer or barrage jammer, and nothing more. This function in the Hornet looks to be something like a range gate pull-off attack, which is totally different. I wonder if the ASPJ has additional modes or functions that we may yet be getting in the future? Anyway, I understood that doppler radars didn't use range gate but a velocity gate. Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Wizard_03 said: Having the ability to break someones lock with ECM is an enormous advantage, I'd take that over the current "jammers" that just make radar not lock beyond X range any day of the week. Oh, most definitely, I'm not complaining in the slightest. I'm just wondering if we'll be able to have any control on when and how the ASPJ works. From the video, it seems like it's completely automatic. No idea how the real thing works, maybe it's solely intended for self-protection, as the name implies. I just think it'd be nice if we could also create an ECM environment in order to deny information, which we now cannot. Again, no idea how the ALQ-165 works, maybe it's programmed to attack enemy radars only when they're locking you. 1 The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Clark Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Joni said: Anyway, I understood that doppler radars didn't use range gate but a velocity gate. They use both. Or more generally, pulse Doppler radars use frequency analyzation algorithms to solve both range and velocity ambiguity, and in both cases those algorithms are vulnerable to false return attacks by EW systems. Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogieman Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) So I've been looking through the control settings on the Hornet and I can't seem to find where I can bind ECM XMIT/OFF to anything? I have a BlackHog panel that I'd like to bind it to. Any clues? Edited January 11, 2021 by Boogieman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerUK9 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Harker said: I just think it'd be nice if we could also create an ECM environment in order to deny information I think that would come under dedicated EW and beyond the remit of 'self protection'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Clark Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 10 hours ago, Boogieman said: So I've been looking through the control settings on the Hornet and I can't seem to find where I can bind ECM XMIT/OFF to anything? I have a BlackHog panel that I'd like to bind it to. Any clues? There's never been one since release, probably because the switch has been completely nonfunctional. Hopefully we get it as an available keybind when we get functional ECM. 1 Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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