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Thanks for the reply.

 

Okay, I was able to setup axis-to-buttons on the VKB ministick - was easier than I expected, you just have to use a bit of guess work to find the right axes. So now I can use either ministick as both a hat and axes. I will try using the CM3 ministick as TDC. This at least should be closer to actual HOTAS on the hog, hornet, and viper I believe.

 

My lower central MCG hat is my Tomcat weapons select. I find assigning all the needed controls to an appropriate button which I can easily use AND REMEMBER one of the biggest hurdles (read:headaches) in DCS. I'm not a huge fan of using the mouse - having to let go of the stick and go zoom-in heads down.

 

Plus, I mess about with too many modules I guess. 

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1 hour ago, imacken said:

Interesting, however, if you use the technique mentioned above with axis-to-button on the mini-stick, there is no need to use modifiers, it is seamless between axes and buttons on the mini-stick.

 

Yeah agreed, however I have been using this method for a long time and I try and make it universal across modules, I have always used that hat in this manner with a modifier to increase the number of buttons available to use . Nice to know I can add buttons to that mini stick though which may come in handy for me at some point.

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3 hours ago, wowbagger said:

I love the Virpil axis-to-button feature! I also have buttons on pretty much every axis - flaps, zoom buttons, engine cutoff, external view.

I am limited to 5 axis choices for axis to buttons. I choose Flap 0-5% down 30-60% for Take Off and 95-100% for down, and throttle grip 1 and throttle grip 2 4-8% for idle. This is all the options that I have. Am I missing how to assign more axis to buttons?

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Joystick bases: VKB GFIII, FSSB R3L, Brunner CLS-E, Virpil Mongoos CM2

Joystick grips: Realsimulator (F-18CGRH, F-16SGRH-CE), VKB (MCG Pro, F-14, KG-12), Virpil Warbrd

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You should be able to assign buttons to all the axes I think - all the same way. Why do you say you are limited?

 

-just select the axis you want to use

-then tick the boxes for the 'region of axis throw' you want to activate the button(s) (eg. 0-5%, 81-100%, whatever)

-'write to rom' (or whatever it's called)

-then look at the physical buttons table to see which ones were created (by moving your axis), and assign them to a logical button

 

 

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For the axis to buttopns screen I can only see four (sorry thought there was five) axis to buittons options. I have chosen the rZ (Flaps) to give button outpputs at open, closed and mid position for the planes that do not use analgue axis for flaps such as the FW-190. The rY (RH Thottle grip) gives an ouput when closed to stop engines. I wouldd really like to add more buttons to Axis but cannot see how

 

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PC: 9980XE @ 64GB RAM /2080Ti, Samsung C49RG90

Joystick bases: VKB GFIII, FSSB R3L, Brunner CLS-E, Virpil Mongoos CM2

Joystick grips: Realsimulator (F-18CGRH, F-16SGRH-CE), VKB (MCG Pro, F-14, KG-12), Virpil Warbrd

Throttles: Virpil CM2, Kantorrin,

Other: TrackIR, TM MFDx2 (Cubesim Screenx2), Virpil Control Panel 1

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Your images aren't working, but you need to double click on the axes in the Axis tab of VPC software and you'll see a bunch of options there relating to axis-to-buttons.

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4 hours ago, imacken said:

Interesting, however, if you use the technique mentioned above with axis-to-button on the mini-stick, there is no need to use modifiers, it is seamless between axes and buttons on the mini-stick.

 

I just checked and realized I had already added buttons to the Micro Stick axis previously, so now have four more buttons available to me in DCS  I have not assigned yet. I am sure I will find a use for them, glad I saw this and checked.

Thanks for bringing to my attention again.


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22 minutes ago, imacken said:

Your images aren't working, but you need to double click on the axes in the Axis tab of VPC software and you'll see a bunch of options there relating to axis-to-buttons.

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Double clicking on the main axis button does nothing, just opens this screen same a single click.

 

Double click on the individual axis results in this screen - getting there

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PC: 9980XE @ 64GB RAM /2080Ti, Samsung C49RG90

Joystick bases: VKB GFIII, FSSB R3L, Brunner CLS-E, Virpil Mongoos CM2

Joystick grips: Realsimulator (F-18CGRH, F-16SGRH-CE), VKB (MCG Pro, F-14, KG-12), Virpil Warbrd

Throttles: Virpil CM2, Kantorrin,

Other: TrackIR, TM MFDx2 (Cubesim Screenx2), Virpil Control Panel 1

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Right that's where you want to be.

 

Double click on the axis you want to add buttons to:

 

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Then choose which areas of the axis travel you want to activate the buttons, and save:

 

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Then Save to VPC Device:

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Then check which buttons were assigned by moving the axis and watching to see which buttons activate:

 

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Then finally, make sure that button on the Physical buttons state list is assigned to a logical button which is what your game will see:

 

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And Save to VPC Device once more:

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Got it, great thanks more dimensions to play with

PC: 9980XE @ 64GB RAM /2080Ti, Samsung C49RG90

Joystick bases: VKB GFIII, FSSB R3L, Brunner CLS-E, Virpil Mongoos CM2

Joystick grips: Realsimulator (F-18CGRH, F-16SGRH-CE), VKB (MCG Pro, F-14, KG-12), Virpil Warbrd

Throttles: Virpil CM2, Kantorrin,

Other: TrackIR, TM MFDx2 (Cubesim Screenx2), Virpil Control Panel 1

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Yeah that is one thing about Virpil hardware, you won't run short of dimensions to play around with.

It has more than my feeble mind can comprehend.

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23 hours ago, dburne said:

 

I don't think so but don't know really. Could be the replacement would do the same thing. I don't know if they replaced mine or how they serviced it. It is not bad, just not perfect at returning to absolute center in both axis. A small dead zone takes care of it for how I use it for TDC slew.

Without putting the dead-zone in the tdc cursor would just slowly move.

 

 

Ok so just to clarify and close this little issue out.

I received a suggestion over on the Virpil forum that has worked out really well for me with this mini stick.

I changed it to with center and put a small dead-zone of 10 for center in the axis tab  of the software.

 

It now reflects accurate center (50%) and returns to that each time in horizontal and vertical axis.

And with it physically moving very smooth and consistent now I am a happy camper once again.

👍

 

 

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1 minute ago, dburne said:

 

Ok so just to clarify and close this little issue out.

I received a suggestion over on the Virpil forum that has worked out really well for me with this mini stick.

I changed it to with center and put a small dead-zone of 10 for center in the axis tab  of the software.

 

It now reflects accurate center (50%) and returns to that each time in horizontal and vertical axis.

And with it physically moving very smooth and consistent now I am a happy camper once again.

👍

 

 

Good to hear it's working for you.  I replaced the cables in my CM3 today...so far so good.

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1 minute ago, Drac said:

Good to hear it's working for you.  I replaced the cables in my CM3 today...so far so good.

 

Great news congrats!

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