C3PO Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Hi - will soon be upgrading my system to a Ryzen 5900X and 3090 .... what VR headset provides the best visual experience in DCS please? Now: Water-cooled Ryzen 5800X + 32GB DDR 4 3200 RAM + EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 24 GB + Reverb G2 + Add-on PCI-e 3.1 card + 2x1TB Corsair M.2 4900/4200 + TM HOTAS Warthog + TM TPR Pendular Rudder 'Engaged Defensive' YouTube Channel Modules: F/A-18C / AV-8B / F-16 / F-15E / F-4E (when it lands) / Persian Gulf / Syria / Nevada / Sinai / South Atlantic Backup: Water-cooled i7 6700K @ 4.5GHz + 32GB DDR4 3200MHz + GTX 1080 8GB + 1TB M.2 1k drive & 250GB SSD drive 500MBps 4K 40" monitor + TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) that's pretty much subjective... best in what way ... for what purpose against what criteria ... i like my G1, i havent opened the G2 yet as i am waiting for my prescription lenses... Edited December 19, 2020 by speed-of-heat 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Pretty happy with my Reverb G2. 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3PO Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: that's pretty much subjective... best in what way ... for what purpose against what criteria ... i like my G1, i havent opened the G2 yet as i am waiting for my prescription lenses... Looking for image quality, and fluid and low latency head movement in the cockpit. The G2 sounds interesting without that awful screen effect .... my only experience of VR is with the Oculus Rift pre-production model in 2015 - and the screen door effect was very noticeable. Edited December 19, 2020 by C3PO Now: Water-cooled Ryzen 5800X + 32GB DDR 4 3200 RAM + EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 24 GB + Reverb G2 + Add-on PCI-e 3.1 card + 2x1TB Corsair M.2 4900/4200 + TM HOTAS Warthog + TM TPR Pendular Rudder 'Engaged Defensive' YouTube Channel Modules: F/A-18C / AV-8B / F-16 / F-15E / F-4E (when it lands) / Persian Gulf / Syria / Nevada / Sinai / South Atlantic Backup: Water-cooled i7 6700K @ 4.5GHz + 32GB DDR4 3200MHz + GTX 1080 8GB + 1TB M.2 1k drive & 250GB SSD drive 500MBps 4K 40" monitor + TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Let me be frank, on your hardware you will have a compromised but very playable experience on the Reverb you will need to either down sample (which is still very playable) or compromise on some settings, my 1080ti settings are below, i suspect you will be both CPU & GPU bottlenecked, your RAM Is also low, your spec will play 2d fine... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3PO Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: Let me be frank, on your hardware you will have a compromised but very playable experience on the Reverb you will need to either down sample (which is still very playable) or compromise on some settings, my 1080ti settings are below, i suspect you will be both CPU & GPU bottlenecked, your RAM Is also low, your spec will play 2d fine... I’ll be running a Ryzen 5900x and 3090 24GB GTX... Now: Water-cooled Ryzen 5800X + 32GB DDR 4 3200 RAM + EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 24 GB + Reverb G2 + Add-on PCI-e 3.1 card + 2x1TB Corsair M.2 4900/4200 + TM HOTAS Warthog + TM TPR Pendular Rudder 'Engaged Defensive' YouTube Channel Modules: F/A-18C / AV-8B / F-16 / F-15E / F-4E (when it lands) / Persian Gulf / Syria / Nevada / Sinai / South Atlantic Backup: Water-cooled i7 6700K @ 4.5GHz + 32GB DDR4 3200MHz + GTX 1080 8GB + 1TB M.2 1k drive & 250GB SSD drive 500MBps 4K 40" monitor + TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 then that should be fine you might want 32gb of RAM while you are at it though SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRoc Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I´d say for sims like DCS it would be the Reverb G2 or Pimax 8KX. Both have their advantages...do your research or try both. FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | SA342 R5 5600X | 32GB | RX 6800XT | TM Cougar | T-Rudder mk.IV | HP Reverb G2 Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle USB standalone MOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnars Driver Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, JayRoc said: I´d say for sims like DCS it would be the Reverb G2 or Pimax 8KX. Both have their advantages...do your research or try both. Yes, something like that. I have the Reverb G1 since one year and recentrly got the 8KX. The 8KX is king if you can drive it, in DCS this takes about what you have. ( I have a i9 9900KS at 5.2Ghz, 32GB RAM, ASUS Strix RTX3090 OC). DCS works fine but there isnt very much of margin to always have a smooth ride. Ohter games, no problem at all. Racing games, Half life alyx work flawless. The 8KX have a quite narrow focal distance for your eye. If you cannot see sharp with your own eyes on about 0,75M or 2foot, you might need glasses to se sharp in the 8KX. I need glasses in the 8KX despite 20/20 visuals(25/20 actually) an no need for glasses IRL except reading glasses. In Reverv Pro, Oculus Rift/Rift S I do not need any glasses so these lenses are quite different than most other VR sets. If you can accept glasses or dont need them = 8kx is king. [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) As speed-of-heat already said, it's personal preference. There's no best at everything. I used to run with higher super sampling for clarity but now I lower it to run at smoother frame rate which I much prefer. Best picture quality: Reverb G2 or Pimax. Best refresh rate: Valve Index. Best bang for your buck: Oculus Quest 2 Edited December 19, 2020 by Taz1004 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRoc Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Best immersion Pimax 8KX by far. FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | SA342 R5 5600X | 32GB | RX 6800XT | TM Cougar | T-Rudder mk.IV | HP Reverb G2 Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle USB standalone MOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The G2 is not available as yet "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruman Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Well. The G2 is available, even in Switzerland, if you preordered it. I assume after new year it should start beeing available for normal orders at retailers. Intel I9 10900k @5.1GHz | MSI MEG Z490 Unify | Corsair Vengeance 64GB - 3600MHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 VPC T-50 Base /w Viper & Hornet Grip | VPC Rotor TCS Pro w/ Hawk-60 Grip | TM TPR LG C2 42" | Reverb G2 | TIR 5 | PointCtrl | OpenKneeboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Jaeger Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 With more optimization of dcs for vr, I would get rid of the G2 and happily would return to the index.The G2 is more Show than the self proclaimed "future of vr". Gesendet von meinem LYA-L29 mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruman Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Whats wrong with the index? Intel I9 10900k @5.1GHz | MSI MEG Z490 Unify | Corsair Vengeance 64GB - 3600MHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 VPC T-50 Base /w Viper & Hornet Grip | VPC Rotor TCS Pro w/ Hawk-60 Grip | TM TPR LG C2 42" | Reverb G2 | TIR 5 | PointCtrl | OpenKneeboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Mower said: The G2 is not available as yet sure it is; I have one in a box waiting for prescription lenses SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 G2 sounds great on resolution, etc though if I had no limit and wanted to jump before Christmas, I'd probably go Pimax 8kx for the greater FOV. For now I'm content with the Odyssey+. I'm sure I would appreciate a G2 though I don't preorder and hoping for Index 2 or a new entry for Samsung with G2 resolution and greater FOV in 2021. I'll be building a new computer for my wife in the next year and will hand the Odyssey down to that one to be a RIO and/ or pilot and/or wingman. Specs & Wishlist: Core i9 9900k 5.0Ghz, Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero, 64GB G.Skill Trident 3600, Asus RoG Strix 3090 OC, 2TB x Samsung Evo 970 M.2 boot. Samsung Evo 860 storage, Coolermaster H500M, ML360R AIO HP Reverb G2, Samsung Odyssey+ WMR; VKB Gunfighter 2, MCG Pro; Virpil T-50CM v3; Slaw RX Viper v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 If you have a larger FOV you need a larger resolution as you start to get SDE, as you physically space the pixels out... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I have: Rift CV1 Rift S Quest Reverb G2. Reverb G2 is now my main headset. Certainly the best image quality I have seen to date in a VR headset. I probably would also have a Quest 2, but I did not care for how Oculus is forcing the tie in with a Facebook account to use the headset. So I passed on Oculus for the first time. Have already deleted most my Oculus game library. 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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C3PO Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Thanks for all the advice: I use the standalone version of DCS: World - but have Steam for other games. Can I still use the G2 with DCS then without the Steam version of DCS? Now: Water-cooled Ryzen 5800X + 32GB DDR 4 3200 RAM + EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 24 GB + Reverb G2 + Add-on PCI-e 3.1 card + 2x1TB Corsair M.2 4900/4200 + TM HOTAS Warthog + TM TPR Pendular Rudder 'Engaged Defensive' YouTube Channel Modules: F/A-18C / AV-8B / F-16 / F-15E / F-4E (when it lands) / Persian Gulf / Syria / Nevada / Sinai / South Atlantic Backup: Water-cooled i7 6700K @ 4.5GHz + 32GB DDR4 3200MHz + GTX 1080 8GB + 1TB M.2 1k drive & 250GB SSD drive 500MBps 4K 40" monitor + TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3PO Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just ordered this: hopefully it'll work well! 3XS Vengeance RTX LN110913 **3XS** EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 XC3 24GB GDDR6X Graphics Card LN64660 *3XS LOGO* 16GB PNY USB3 Pendrive for Windows/Linux Recovery Media LN111449 *3XS ONLY* AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900X CPU, OEM TRAY LN99777 *3XS ONLY* Asus ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING Motherboard LN46437 3 Year Warranty - 1st Year Onsite, 2nd & 3rd Year Return to Base (Parts & Labour) LN96400 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair DDR4 Dominator Platinum RGB, PC4-25600 (3200), Non-ECC Unbuff, CAS 16-18-18-36, RGB LED, XMP,1.35V LN110545 3XS 2TB Corsair Force MP600 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 LN107742 3XS 60cm ASUS ROG Addressable RGB LED Light Strip Aura Sync 30x RGB 5050 LEDs Magnetic+3M DIY Double Sided Tape LN110342 3XS CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case, Black LN48272 3XS Estimated Build Time LN108647 3XS Game Pass Promotion LN85337 3XS Microsoft H17-10001 GML Win Logo LN81083 3XS Only Corsair RM1000X 1000W Gold Modular PSU LN61909 3 x 3XS System Build LN71540 3XS Systems 7 Day Technical Support LN57605 3XS Upgrade Premium LN111246 3XS Vengeance RTX AMD R7 LN86090 3XS Welcome Pack LN86912 3XS Welcome Pack LN107578 Corsair iCue H150i RGB Pro XT 3XS LN45708 Scan 3XS System - 3 Year Warranty (Mainland UK) - 1st Year Onsite, 2nd & 3rd Year Return to Base (Parts & Labour) LN89809 Windows 10 Home Advanced DPK KUK-00001 Now: Water-cooled Ryzen 5800X + 32GB DDR 4 3200 RAM + EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 24 GB + Reverb G2 + Add-on PCI-e 3.1 card + 2x1TB Corsair M.2 4900/4200 + TM HOTAS Warthog + TM TPR Pendular Rudder 'Engaged Defensive' YouTube Channel Modules: F/A-18C / AV-8B / F-16 / F-15E / F-4E (when it lands) / Persian Gulf / Syria / Nevada / Sinai / South Atlantic Backup: Water-cooled i7 6700K @ 4.5GHz + 32GB DDR4 3200MHz + GTX 1080 8GB + 1TB M.2 1k drive & 250GB SSD drive 500MBps 4K 40" monitor + TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 hours ago, C3PO said: Thanks for all the advice: I use the standalone version of DCS: World - but have Steam for other games. Can I still use the G2 with DCS then without the Steam version of DCS? Absolutely. 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3PO Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 A bit OT: but have a slight problem with my current triple screen setup (the rig that is contained in my signature). When I pan around the cockpit, the two side screens are very lagging and are not keeping up with the rate of panning of the middle screen. FPS seems good at around 60 in free flight so it is not a frame-rate issue. I'm using nVidia surround. and 460 drivers (the latest nVidia drivers have broken surround for me). Now: Water-cooled Ryzen 5800X + 32GB DDR 4 3200 RAM + EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 24 GB + Reverb G2 + Add-on PCI-e 3.1 card + 2x1TB Corsair M.2 4900/4200 + TM HOTAS Warthog + TM TPR Pendular Rudder 'Engaged Defensive' YouTube Channel Modules: F/A-18C / AV-8B / F-16 / F-15E / F-4E (when it lands) / Persian Gulf / Syria / Nevada / Sinai / South Atlantic Backup: Water-cooled i7 6700K @ 4.5GHz + 32GB DDR4 3200MHz + GTX 1080 8GB + 1TB M.2 1k drive & 250GB SSD drive 500MBps 4K 40" monitor + TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I'd start a separate Thread m8; Merry Christmas, you might want to check the monitor refersh rate is the same for each screen in display settings -> advanced display settings 2 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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