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No need for me to write tons about this. Just a heads up for you all. 451.48 is the last good one. Since then drivers have been causing stutters. But there are no Ampere drivers out there that are not affected; 451.48 is pre-Ampere. Nvidia aware of the problem (were able to replicate) and are working (all day and night I would imagine) on a solution. Whoopsie!

 

(This might explain why @Aurelius found 6000-series AMD cards to have a smoother rendering pipeline compared to Ampere in VR with DCS.)

 

Download 451.48 here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/161303/

 

Details / background reading here: 

 

 


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55 minutes ago, Milou said:

No need for me to write tons about this. Just a heads up for you all. 451.48 is the last good one. Since then drivers have been causing stutters. But there are no Ampere drivers out there that are not affected; 451.48 is pre-Ampere. Nvidia aware of the problem (were able to replicate) and are working (all day and night I would imagine) on a solution. Whoopsie!

 

(This might explain why @Aurelius found 6000-series AMD cards to have a smoother rendering pipeline compared to Ampere in VR with DCS.)

 

Download 451.48 here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/161303/

 

Details / background reading here: 

 

 

 

 Yes... I just having all stutters with my 3090 compared with 2080ti. Better performance overall, BUT with a lot of framedrops!!!

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Has anyone tried the last ones released just yesteday? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/167753/

 

Also the title of the thread is wrong, it should be 451.48 not 481.48 🙂


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3 hours ago, Lurker said:

Has anyone tried the last ones released just yesteday? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/167753/

 

Also the title of the thread is wrong, it should be 451.48 not 481.48 🙂

 

Just did...Still stuttering on my 3080

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4 hours ago, Lurker said:

Has anyone tried the last ones released just yesteday? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/167753/

 

Also the title of the thread is wrong, it should be 451.48 not 481.48 🙂

 

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Yeah, you are correct. Thanks.

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16 hours ago, Milou said:

No need for me to write tons about this. Just a heads up for you all. 451.48 is the last good one. Since then drivers have been causing stutters. But there are no Ampere drivers out there that are not affected; 451.48 is pre-Ampere. Nvidia aware of the problem (were able to replicate) and are working (all day and night I would imagine) on a solution. Whoopsie!

 

(This might explain why @Aurelius found 6000-series AMD cards to have a smoother rendering pipeline compared to Ampere in VR with DCS.)

 

Download 451.48 here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/161303/

 

Details / background reading here: 

 

 

 

Argh...tried to rollback the driver to 451.48 ... would not install...says it is not compatible with this version of windows / Could not find suitable graphic hardware (got Win10-64 latest update and GeForce 3080). guess the driver is for Turing cards only 😢


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1 hour ago, Milou said:

451,48 pre dates Ampere. So it won't work. Turing and earlier, it will.

Hi Milou, what's your GPU?  (sorry, can't see your sig)

 

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Don't know if it matters but, I recently did a complete wipe/reload of my PC, fresh install of DCS.

 

When it came to the hardware, I decided to skip installing the NVidia GEForce Experience app. I also let Windows install the driver for my 1080ti.

 

Since then, I have had the best VR performance I could hope for. My GPU/CPU frame times are roughly half of what they were before.

 

I don't know which if any NVidia posted driver this equates to...

 

 

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For me what worked best was forcing ASW to on, this removed pretty much all noticable judder. No stutter to speak of that I can notice either, but spotting aircraft took a hit as now I can't spot worth a damn at almost any distance where the model turns into a pixel. 

 

I'm using the Gameready Cyberpunk driver. 

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On 12/15/2020 at 10:18 PM, Milou said:

No need for me to write tons about this. Just a heads up for you all. 451.48 is the last good one. Since then drivers have been causing stutters. But there are no Ampere drivers out there that are not affected; 451.48 is pre-Ampere. Nvidia aware of the problem (were able to replicate) and are working (all day and night I would imagine) on a solution. Whoopsie!

 

I have had no problems with any drivers since the 3090 launch, including 460.89.

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12 hours ago, Sr. said:

Don't know if it matters but, I recently did a complete wipe/reload of my PC, fresh install of DCS.

 

When it came to the hardware, I decided to skip installing the NVidia GEForce Experience app. I also let Windows install the driver for my 1080ti.

 

Since then, I have had the best VR performance I could hope for. My GPU/CPU frame times are roughly half of what they were before.

 

I don't know which if any NVidia posted driver this equates to...

 

 

1080ti.PNG

 

It's in the driver version right there. You're runing 432.00 (26.21.14.3200), which is way before 481.48.

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32 minutes ago, FoxTwo said:

 

It's in the driver version right there. You're runing 432.00 (26.21.14.3200), which is way before 481.48.

Thanks for clarifying... now if Windows will leave it alone.

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3 hours ago, Sr. said:

Thanks for clarifying... now if Windows will leave it alone.

You can set Windows to not update drivers through Windows update. It's the first thing i turn off after a fresh install (which is already a long time ago).

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I had been going back to 436.30 or 442.19 drivers for my regular 1080 to overcome the MiG-21 radar frame rate problem, which also led to great DCS performance/quality overall. But MSFS and Star Wars Squadrons both need current drivers. It is a hassle switching back and forth 😞 I laugh at the nVidia fans that say only AMD has driver issues. I used AMD for years from a Radeon 8500 128MB all the way to a 7970 GHz edition until I needed the 1080 for VR. Over all of those years I had fewer problems than I have experienced with the 1080 as the drivers keep changing to address games I don't play, features I don't use, and hardware I don't have, breaking one or more of my flight sims.

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8 hours ago, Lange_666 said:

You can set Windows to not update drivers through Windows update. It's the first thing i turn off after a fresh install (which is already a long time ago).

 

8 hours ago, Drac said:

Where is that feature located?

 

Might been a bit to fast on the info it could be done through Windows update settings (it's been a long time since i've used it to block the driver update).

 

But you can do this: 

- https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10

 

or step one from here:

- https://windowsreport.com/block-driver-updates-windows-10/

If you follow the link to the Microsoft website, it will offer a download "wushowhide.diagcab". Just download and run it.

It will check for updates and then offer some option you can select.

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4 hours ago, Lange_666 said:

 

 

Might been a bit to fast on the info it could be done through Windows update settings (it's been a long time since i've used it to block the driver update).

 

But you can do this: 

- https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10

 

or step one from here:

- https://windowsreport.com/block-driver-updates-windows-10/

If you follow the link to the Microsoft website, it will offer a download "wushowhide.diagcab". Just download and run it.

It will check for updates and then offer some option you can select.

Thanks...

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